Gun Control

Don’t you want to restrict lawful gun ownership?

I once, as a part of my internship to get the teacher’s diploma I had to teach illiterate people. I had this guy, he reminds me of somebody in this forum. I taught him the vowels every day during night time. Day after day I would ask him about the vowels. A was E, and so on. I, at a certain level, gave up on this guy, he was brain dead!

So, I believe that at a certain point you can’t argue with brain dead people. I apply that in my line of work. Once, twice, third time is a charmer, you don’t get it, you are out of my life!

But, be mercy. You got to have some pity on these people. They follow the NRA mantra, scaring people about the second amendment, which to me is old chit. I bet they would even go to donate to the NRA after an idiot as the Las Vegas shooter mows down their entire family. That’s how stupid they are, really!

Well, you may have to take in consideration that they have been poisoned by Alex Jones. Too much lead in their brains.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/video/infowars-supplements-could-contain-high-levels-of-lead/vi-AAu63Ms?ocid=ientp

I believe I specifically said, no semi automatic rifles and bump stocks. I even said I would consider owning a handgun for home protection since I do not have any kids around. I am reasonable…

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Is this what Obama had in mind…If so, how come he didn’t mention it…Since Obamacare I have had several plans and many different doctors and costs have tripled…From $500-$1500/m…Whatever happened to all the promises

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Here! Here!
trump and healthcare CEOs

The data I posted shows your ban would impact 2% of guns used in homicides. So it wouldn’t prevent many homicides, but it would limit what millions and millions of legal gun owners can do.

Wow! Some people are stupid, dumb, naïve, narcissist, or incredibly so psychopath.

No feelings, no compassion, just mumbling jumbling data.

Well, I bet this story gives them marijuana type of delusions in their brain.

“This is your life,” the doctor said. “You’re a quadriplegic.”

When she heard the news, Kim Gervais broke down. The tears rolled out, and her daughter clasped her mother’s head, overcome by her own inability to help.

Then came Ms. Gervais’s trip home to Southern California. And here she was, three weeks after the shooting, strapped into a wheelchair at a rehabilitation clinic, toughing it out with a physical therapist and straining to drink from a sippy cup as her toddler grandchildren looked on.

This is the road after Las Vegas, after a high-stakes gambler named Stephen Paddock hauled powerful weapons into a gilded casino and opened fire on a country music festival below. The journey — as the survivors of so many other American mass shootings will say — is one full of chronic pain, fights with insurance, ruined marriages, lost jobs, anguished parents and children, and the injustice of being forced into a new identity: victim.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/you’re-a-quadriplegic’-a-las-vegas-victim-faces-a-hard-reality/ar-AAuax3e?li=AA4ZnC&ocid=ientp

Perhaps, but is there a legitimate need for military level weaponry in the hands of citizens?

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You’re pivoting to a moral argument when the facts don’t support your opinion. When the constitution was written, citizens could own the same guns as the military. Today, citizens can’t own the same guns as the military. There are also background checks.

The actions people want to take are knee jerk emotional reactions. None of them will make citizens safer. All you’ll do is disarm lawful gun owners which is shown to increase crime.

The idea that citizens should own military weapons is insane…Even the NRA is against bumper stocks. .
Tanks, planes, machine guns, nuclear weapons…where do you draw the line?..Personally I think England and Australia have it right. Shotguns are perfect for hunting and home defense. Bolt action rifles are best for big game.
Pistols are used to kill people primarily, they are useless for hunting. .Assault weapons are only for killing people…For hunting only 3 -5 shot magazines are allowed by Fish And Game regulations.
I am a hunter, never needed more than 5 shots. …Never needed a semi automatic for hunting. .They are less accurate and jam often…
I have no problem with banning pistols and semi automatic long guns…similar to England. …Of course the NRA would never left it happen

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Well, tell me what purpose is a semi automatic rifle that shoots 600-900 rounds per minute in a non war situation? My Bezos, one must be one really bad hunter…

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Why does a right need a purpose? What’s the purpose of so many abortions? In NYC alone, they aborted 3x as many black babies as the total number of gun homicides in the US.

3x as many people die in traffic accidents as gun homicides. Cars would undoubtedly be safer if we lowered all speed limits. Why isn’t anyone pushing for that? Driving is a privilege not a right yet it’s difficult to lose a driver’s license. Shouldn’t we be eager to restrict the ability to drive of people that have proven to be unsafe drivers? We don’t yet you want to take away gun ownership rights of millions of law abiding citizens.

You have zero data supporting it would make citizens safer. You also want to place more restrictions on a right than there are on a privilege that kills 3x as many people. There’s zero logical basis that can justify that. There’s also no legal basis.

Don’t you believe in society advancing forward? I know it is hard for you to take off that NRA t-shirt for once to even wash the darn thing, but think theoretically for once. Why would you want a single human being to have so much power to impact so many lives negatively? It is similar to the notion about being aware and conscious of your own carbon footprint. You know, the idea of making the world a better place or certainly not a worse place for your kids and future generations. We all are only here for a short tenancy. Let’s try to get our full security deposit back for the next tenant, ok???

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How is it advancing forward? It isn’t going to lower the homicide rate, and it’ll lead to an increase of other crimes. How is that forward?

Somebody once wrote something very important. Oh…that’s me!

Wow! Some people are stupid, dumb, naïve, narcissist, or incredibly so psychopath.

No feelings, no compassion, just mumbling jumbling data.

@Elt1, looks like we have someone to thank for the spike in rates:

"Do Democrats “own” the rising rates, though? Not if you ask the health insurers and policy experts who have set and study those premiums.

As Vox documented in great detail, premiums on the law’s marketplaces were expected to stabilize this year, as insurers finally adjusted to the customers who were buying coverage. Single-digit rate increases, on average, were anticipated. It wasn’t perfect, but the law was reaching an equilibrium.

But then Trump intervened. He sowed uncertainty about whether the law’s individual mandate would be enforced. He cut funding for advertising and enrollment outreach.

Then the president stopped key cost-sharing payments to health insurers, which compensate companies for offering discounts on out-of-pocket costs to their lower-income customers. Insurers had warned they would hike rates as a result.

As Vox reported earlier, health plans and actuaries say Trump’s actions have raised premiums by at least 25 percent and as much as 45 percent from what they otherwise would have been.

Millions of Americans who receive federal assistance to buy insurance will be insulated from the rising rates. But the law’s middle-class customers who make too much money to receive that aid — many of them Republicans — will be on the hook."

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Yeah blame Trump…not…I was paying $500 before Obama…His plan forced every one to buy shitty insurance. .But his plan didn’t force insurance companies to keep prices low…No wonder United Health Care stock tripled, like my premiums. …This year it was $1100, next year $1536/m…Nothing to stop these thieves from making it $15,000/m
When I started paying for my own health care in the seventies I was paying $25/m…Now $1536…Worse than college tuition inflation. .Healthcare inflation costs are going to destroy our whole economy. .Most of you have employer paid healthcare…You are clueless about the facts…The fact is at this rate of inflation, no employer will be able to pay for healthcare in 5-10 years…Healthcare costs going up at twice to 4 times inflation is unsustainable

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Rates were going up by 25%+ a year when Obama was president. Obamacare wasn’t about lowering healthcare spending. It was about class warfare and shifting who pays the bill.

Even when Obama was president, more and more insurers were leaving the exchanges leaving customers with fewer options. Obamacare was destined to fail.

Hey kids!

Eat this!

I AM GOING TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYBODY! SOUNDS FAMILIAR?

“I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of, much better than they’re taken care of now.” [Who pays for it?] “The government pays for it.” --Donald Trumputing…

@Elt1, Obamacare is not perfect. It was impossible for it to be due to the concessions that were made with the opposing party to get it passed.

But by multiple measures, it was succeeding. What needs to be done is to fix the gaps that are hurting folks like you, but some in positions of power would rather let the whole thing fail than fix the parts that need fixing.

This article has good stats:

"The average growth in per-enrollee spending by private health plans in key categories has slowed materially since the passage of the Affordable Care Act in 2010, from annual growth averaging 5% in 2000-2010, to 1.5% in 2010-2015. Spending growth on hospital services, physician services and prescription drugs all slowed. Medicare, which has instituted numerous cost-control initiatives under the Affordable Care Act, has seen an overall decline in spending per enrollee.

…even though employer-based insurance hasn’t yet been directly affected by the Affordable Care Act, there seems to be a spillover effect from the overall reduction in healthcare spending growth. Premiums rose by an average 5.6% a year in the 10 years prior to passage of the Affordable Care Act, but only 3.1% since, according to Kaiser Family Foundation’s annual survey of employer health benefits.

No one claimed, either before the passage of the Affordable Care Act or afterward, that it was perfect or that it would solve America’s healthcare crisis in one swipe. What became evident in the three years since the individual insurance exchanges opened for business (on Jan. 1, 2014) is that the subsidies for premiums needed to be increased and improved. Because they’re inadequate, especially as households cross the threshold of 400% of the federal poverty line at which subsidies are eliminated — at about $97,200 for a family of four — middle-class families in the individual insurance market feel overburdened. They blame Obamacare for this injustice. The real culprits are Republicans who have refused to consider any approach to the Affordable Care Act except repeal. Now the GOP is “it” on healthcare, and it’s discovering that crafting a solution from scratch may be almost impossible."

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