That’s mixing politics with academics.
Abstract thinking comes naturally in any science program. I gave some examples in math. In CS it’s very unlikely kids will ever get to learn automata, compilers, OS or algorithm design on their own outside of college setting. No bootcamps will ever teach you those because they are not practical skills.
To me they are essential because they expand a kid’s mind.
Yes. That’s what a lot of colleges have done now. In fact, it’s so bad, that even in the areas of science, any research that might imply that minority groups are not the same as majority ones is not allowed to be presented, and the speakers are villified, and sometime fired.
Maybe math and CS will be able to slide by unscathed. We’ll see.
You can get these courses for free on MIT’s Open Courseware. There are so many classes out there for free or for sale on places like Coursera, that you can get some of this. It’s only a matter of time before one of these companies - maybe LinkedIn - offers professional certifications.
Lol. You think that’s what is taught in college? It’s largely memorization to pass exams. Seriously, how much does anyone use of what they learned in college? The biggest lesson is learning how to teach yourself new things. People either have that curiosity and drive or they don’t. The bulk of the population wants to stay in their comfort zone.
There’s a reason one of my interview questions is, “Tell me about a new skill you learned whether it’s work related or not.” If someone can’t think of a new skill they’ve learned, then I know they won’t be adaptable enough to keep up over time.
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Learning how to take care of lawn, count 
? Or you need a specific skill like mastering the string trimmer?
I conceptualize it differently. Teaching students how to use a dictionary 
The closest I can think of is the algorithm design class. However I can’t think of any courses that teach unstructured problem solving.
College or K-12 teach this? I learn that during high school in Singapore.
You learned group theory in high school? Seriously?
I was a math major in college and I don’t feel it’s just memorization to pass exams. Professors didn’t teach students how to think. People picked that up from learning the material and doing the problems.
I just saw this chart that’s related to my point about raising one’s abstract thinking level in the AI age.
Bookkeeping as a profession is largely deadend nowadays, replaced by spreadsheets programs. That’s analogous to a skill you can learn in a bootcamp or watch a YouTube video.
Financial analysis is much higher level. Much broader. Not a skill per se but more like a set of knowledge and framework about how companies work.
When chatGPT 4 already knows how to write basic code today, bootcamps grads won’t fare too well when chatGPT 20 is released 5 years from now.
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Then US is far behind UK. During my time, high school uses UK system.
I think you meant linear algebra, not group theory. I took the A level exam in Hong Kong. I know the syllabus.
We learned how to solve linear equations using determinants, but it’s not a systematic study of linear algebra.
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No. You are younger than me. Syllabus could have changed. The course is called Further Maths 
This is learned in O level (equivalent to sophomore of high school).
Saw an interesting summary of census data on educational attainment from last year.
Some highlights:
The high school completion rate in the United States for people age 25 and older increased from 87.6% in 2011 to 91.1% in 2021.
Between 2011 and 2021, the percentage of people age 25 and older who had completed a bachelor’s degree or higher increased by 7.5 percentage points from 30.4% to 37.9%.
In 2021, of adults age 25 and older who had completed a bachelor’s degree or more, 53.1% were women and 46.9% were men.
From 2011 to 2021, the percentage of adults age 25 and older with a bachelor’s degree or higher increased from 34.0% to 41.9% for the non-Hispanic White population; from 19.9% to 28.1% for the Black population; from 50.3% to 61.0% for the Asian population; and from 14.1% to 20.6% for the Hispanic population.
Naturalized citizens and the children of foreign-born parents both had high levels of educational attainment in 2021; 42.2% of naturalized citizens and 43.0% of children of foreign-born parents had a bachelor’s degree or higher.
Thank you for posting that. We’ve been wondering if our son who is into digital arts should be bothering to go to college. He’s not necessarily interested in that experience - he already dislikes taking classes, and prefers to learn through shorter online courses on youtube and the like.
If anyone knows what the right path is for a kid like this to get a job, let me know. He knows AI, Photoshop, and Blender (of which he is not a fan). Also Corel Draw, but of course AI is considered the better one to know. Do you just put together a portfolio and apply for a job???
From Quora:
Speaking as someone who was a game programmer, it will make it harder.
The best programmer I’ve ever worked with didn’t have a CompSci degree. He had no degree. But he had been programming games professionally since he was 14.
When I met him, we were both in our twenties, but he had knowledge that was light-years beyond anyone else at the company, even people who had been programming for 30 years.
That was 20+ years ago. He recently told me the salary he made there. It was almost half of what I made. I assume it’s because I had a degree and he didn’t.
Time went on and that game studio went under. I got another job fairly quickly (but it was in a totally different part of the country) but he struggled. He showed the game studios the games he had worked on, he totally aced the technical interviews and even showed the interviewers where they were wrong on answers (which actually might’ve hurt him).
But he found it really hard to land another gig. Despite his experience and knowledge, other studios were reluctant to hire him because he didn’t have a degree. His résumé of games didn’t help; he was going up against new college grads who had CompSci degrees.
Eventually he was hired on with a studio, but only because a former co-worker of ours vouched for him. As soon as he was hired, he blew them away with his proficiency. He wrote a new networked Lua debugger for them in a few weeks that every other studio was scrambling for as soon as they saw it.
He was—is—the greatest programmer I’ve ever worked with. But even back in the late 1990s and early 2000s he had trouble landing gigs. The CompSci degree speaks volumes.
Today there’s a huge oversupply of eager candidates trying to get into game development. Many aspiring game programmers have CompSci (or similar) degrees. Though you might have some nice projects to show, without that degree, you might not even get the chance to show them.
In industries outside of game development, you might have a better shot. Software engineers are in high demand right now and there aren’t always a huge number of candidates. Personal projects will work here too.
I don’t want to be a wet blanket. You can still apply for game development (programming) jobs. Failing an interview or two won’t hurt you in any way. But know the competition is stiff.
Do have some game projects to show them. Be prepared to explain how you overcame certain challenges. Be prepared to explain how certain things in your game work. If you get an interview, be prepared for tough technical questions.
Isn’t game development one of the lowest paying comp science jobs? They rely on young guys who are gaming nerd to work insane hours for lower pay. Since making games is “fun”.
Math major here.
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Sorry, Fearless Leader, but I’ll take a few more millions if it means I give up a few IQ points… (LOL)
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Don’t destroy his only bragging right
Wealth 
is influenced by choices (itself is influenced by courage and wisdom) and luck (itself is influenced by political/ economic/ physical environment).
However, I do believe wealth is correlated to IQ on a population basis.
Just make sure you do get the millions when you do the trade.
