Avoiding bankruptcy in case of real estate downturn

My guess is for those who bought 2M properties with loans probably have assets somewhere else (like in stocks or other properties). Since they can qualify for 1.6M loan and rates are low now, why not get a loan rather than putting down a large sum? As long as the risk is manageable (lost job, market crash, etc) w.r.t. to the safety margin (size of loan vs size of assets elsewhere), taking advantage of the current low interest rate is a smart thing to do.

Personally, all of my rentals have positive cashflow from day one (well, not day one but when it’s fully occupied after rehabbing is complete). Most of them have loans. My rentals are at the lower end of each market so they have relatively higher rent-to-value ratio (1% rule would be fantastic). In my opinion, no investment beats a leveraged lower-end-of-the-market high-rent-to-value property, as long as you can handle the usual headaches that come with being a landlord (at a reasonable level of course). You get the stability of real estate investment and high return due to the leverage from loan, both from rent collection and appreciation. The key is to make sure tenants are collectible and vacancy rate is low, which means you need to have enough positive cashflow when market demands lower rents or when you are hit with a few problematic tenants. I had my share of dealing with bad tenants and so far I think I mostly have lucked out without taking a sizable loss. When you only have one property the tenant hit/miss can be significant, but after you have accumulated a few they tend to average out.

My overall LTV is below 50%, and I am not sure what my DTI is but it shouldn’t be terribly high (wuqijun’s is over 50%?). I have investment in stocks that acts as my reserve, which provides me with the peace of mind even if a big earthquake flattens some of my properties.

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I am offsetting the negative with the positive. Otherwise I would need to pay out of pocket. I don’t want to buy many trophy homes because those rents will not cover the PITI. After all, these are supposed to be INCOME properties… :rofl:

Someday I will get tagged to share my wisdom…until that day comes I’ll continue read and learn…

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I’m not sure how DTI is calculated. I just divided the PITI against the rent. From that I derived over 50%… so I guess at breakeven your DTI would be at 100%… :wink:

Also, did I say my LTV is over 50%??? It’s actually below 50%…

I’m sorry to break the DTI bubble for you :rofl:, but your DTI might be over 100% unless you did PITI divided by net rent. If you used gross rent, your DTI is overly optimistic.

But your LTV of 50% is good, not too high and not too low, just perfect

Thanks for your concern. I’ve been keeping track of my monthly cash flow for 4 years straight and so far I’ve been laughing all the way to the bank every single month… :rofl:

True, I’m happy for your strong cash flow. The poor DTI will make it really hard for you to get a mortgage, but you have too much money to apply for mortgages

Yes, not looking for more mortgages at this point. Already has too many…

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Do you drive to the bank? Laughing and driving is as bad as texting!

Makes it worse riding a bicycle. :smile:

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