Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 Covid-19

Our initial border closure was limited to China.

Maybe you should ask all the protestors who are violating the 6’ distancing rules. Maybe it’s just coincidence that after a couple weeks of protests the number of cases increases.

If he even mentioned 14-day quarantine for foreign visitors, the media and democrats would have a field day calling him racist and xenophonic. Biden called him xenophobic for the initial travel ban and was against it. Turns out we needed an even bigger travel ban.

Did the protests increase the spread of corona? Could be. I would guess it did but I don’t think it’s a major vector compared to reopening. How many people protested vs how many started going out again because of reopening like dining out and going to bars? Do the math and tell me it’s not magnitudes different in scale.

If reopening doesn’t matter at all why did Florida and Texas close down bars again? Are people protesting inside bars?

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Bars and gyms are toast. I bet they are closed soon nationally. We are going to have a huge unemployed groups of angry frustrated young people. This will be politically destabilizing. I think our PPP money has funded the riots. This is just the beginning of the unintended consequences of the shut down. SIP is not a benign situation. Covid19 kills old people. Unemployment, SIP, forbearance are destroying the economy and the social contract. Which is worse?

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Florida limited capacity to 25% and required all tables to be at least 6 ft apart.

Texas limited to 50% capacity and required all tables to be at least 6 ft apart.

You really want to point to that as the issue over protesting?

Just so we are clear a Florida re-opened at the start of May. Cases were flat to declining all month. Floyd was killed May, 25th. Restaurants were already open for 3.5 weeks the 7-day average was still declining. Incubation period from exposure to symptoms is less than a week.

Texas who reopened restaurants May, 1st

Trust the data.

Have always felt tables are too close. Six feet apart is :+1: Any restaurants can’t be profitable should shutdown. I believe all fine dining restaurants have tables six feet or more apart.

Restaurants will have to raise prices.

I never ate out that often even before Covid. If restaurants raise prices, they’ll see less of my money.

Actually protests may have reduced spread of Covid.

If you actually look at the data, the increase isn’t spread evenly through Texas and Florida. It’s concentrated in a few areas. You realize the red dots are places seeing the biggest spikes of COVID cases. Meanwhile, the article is arguing people spent even more time at home during that period. The increase can’t be from restaurants opening, since they were already open for 3.5 weeks and must have been even less busy during the protesting per the data you presented.

Do you want to rethink your it is all restaurants theory, since they were open for weeks with no spike? Yet, protests started and cases immediately spiked in those counties. I’m not sure what science you’re trusting to say it’s restaurants.

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CA +8,610 on Tuesday

Does this number mean anything?

Adding a picture for easier understanding, note the spikes & the recent 7 day average slope.

This graph is for the state of CA.

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anyone watching newsom update? stuff is closing down again :frowning:

People should just call everything a protest, since those are allowed and don’t spread coronavirus.

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People here are doing a “soft protest.” Retailers are posting the latest greatest regulations outside their store but not enforcing them if they want customers. Restaurants are still open and doing a healthy business.
We did have one real “protest” today. I should have taken pictures. It was a pro-police rally outside the sheriff’s office. Signs said things like “Support Your Police” and “The Thin Blue line between Chaos and Civilization.” Lot of people were honking as they drove by.

Should not have opened in the first place. Not until we start arresting people for not wearing masks.

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California to close indoor businesses in some counties as coronavirus cases hit record highs

The state will also ramp up its enforcement of recommended social distancing guidelines and face-covering requirements, Newsom said. Seven agencies will come together to form a “strike team” that will target noncompliant workplaces, he said.

“It’s more education. I’m not coming out with a fist,” Newsom said. “We want to come out with an open heart, recognizing the magnitude of some of these modifications.”

No, please come out with a :fist_right:

Where will you put them all? We’re already trying to empty prisons.

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Quick fix prison cells made of PVC walls.