Tesla’s Make-Or-Break Moment Is Fast Approaching


#1354

SC = ?


#1355

Camry 3.5L. No idea for the rest of the questions, not interested in finding out. Petrol is dirt cheap in USA.


#1356

My CRV is still going strong after 13 years. I will wait for Tim cook’s Apple car. Please make it awesome Tim.


#1357

How many miles you drive in single fill up gas, with Camry?


#1358

You are indirectly voting now to AAPL :rofl:


#1359

I don’t care to find out :slight_smile: Just mindlessly fill up petrol whenever I am grocery shopping in Costco. Now, you want an old man to change habit? Better be quantum improvement.


#1360

Your state of delusion has just increased 10x…


#1361

I don’t care to find out ==> This is where you miss the EV benefit !

Using BOLT Lease, I pay $320/month ($280+40) expenses, charging 2 days in a week (instead of filling gas once a week).

This amount $320 is equal to you monthly gas filling charges.


#1362

Not enough incentive to use my brain.


#1363

I spend ~$2500/year on gas for my car…not a Prius, a quick and fun to drive German sedan. On top of that there is maintenance. With an equivalent level EV (e.g. Model S) charging cost would be $450–500/year with an EV rate plan. Maintenance should be ~50% of an ICE. Put it all together and you’re looking at ~$2,500/year in savings compared to a similar petrol car. How much is that savings worth to you? To me it’s 6–10x, $15–25k more that I can justify spending on an EV vs a gas powered car.


#1364

TSLA is for high-end people who drives longer distance, high earners.

Compare Bolt EV please.


#1365

:+1:

This is the type of multiple improvement that we expect from innovation.


#1366

What kind of Camry costs 40-50K in the US?!?! :thinking:


#1367

How so fellow CRV owner? :smile:


#1368

More about Model 3 killer:


#1370

Price dropped from when I got mine. I recalled the driver assist package wasn’t that cheap.


#1371

I don’t really think the Kona Electric is a $60K Model 3 killer. They seem to serve different audiences. The Model 3 is fun to drive, lively, fast, and packed full of quasi-autonomous tech. The Kona, OTOH, by all accounts, is a dull drive, but practical.

I think the Kona Electric is a “35K vaporware-Model-3 killer”. :slight_smile:

The real question is, assuming a 20K spread in average transaction prices between the two (say, 37K vs 57K, not including tax credits), will the Model 3 REALLY be a huge volume hit in this space? Or will the Kona Electric cannibalize sales from all those people that wanted a 35K Tesla but now realize there’s no such thing, and hence, will buy a Kona instead?


#1372

Hanera, I’m disappointed in you. You’re paying MSRP for a 2019 Camry, and not even getting a $409 discount (1%), thus getting it into the 30s? :rofl: (just kidding :slight_smile: )


#1373

Price has dropped since I bought, could be due to currency fluctuation, US dollar is stronger than Yen. Presuming I have bought mine recently? Adjusting for inflation, the price is …


#1374

OK, just don’t make that a habit okay? :grin: