Trump to cut $10.5 trillion government spending

Do old people really spend $19k on medical on average each year? Maybe we can ask South Korea to take control of our medicare.

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Most of that $19k goes to the drug companies. .A benefit you can thank Bush for…

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Yeah, drug companies need to charge double, triple or 10 times of the price in USA to support its research. USA pays for the research and rest of the world can buy American drugs for a low price.

This is America Last.

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There is no magical “waste” to cut that gives you 1T in saving. Everyone talks about cutting waste, nobody ever succeed in doing. The best they do is hack around the edges and that’s it.

You want to cut Medicare? Let’s bring in the death panel. Maybe some old folks deserve to die.

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There are too many wastes we can cut.

Social security tax revenue is only $800 billion a year. We have to limit the total benefit to the total tax revenue.

Medicare tax revenue would be less than social security tax. If we limit social security tax and Medicare tax to the respective tax revenue, we have already saved over $1 trillion.

Medicare benefit is only $546 billion a year. Rest goes to Medicaid and ObamaCare.

You need to be careful about the data source. So much spin and it’s easy to get duped.

Once ObamaCare is gone, Medicare spending will be cut in half.

Medicare, Medicaid, CHIP, and marketplace subsidies: Four health insurance programs — Medicare, Medicaid, the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP), and Affordable Care Act (ACA) marketplace subsidies — together accounted for 25 percent of the budget in 2015, or $938 billion. Nearly two-thirds of this amount, or $546 billion, went to Medicare, which provides health coverage to around 55 million people who are over age 65 or have disabilities. The rest of this category funds Medicaid, CHIP, and ACA subsidy and exchange costs. In a typical month, Medicaid and CHIP provide health care or long-term care to about 72 million low-income children, parents, elderly people, and people with disabilities. (Both Medicaid and CHIP require matc

After Obamacare is removed, there is no replacement? OK. Got it. So Trump lied when he said all Americans will get insurance. Boy why am I not surprised?

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Medicare insurance should be provided to people who are eligible and be paid with the Medicare tax. You should work hard and pay Medicare tax for many years before your reap the benefit.

Obama doubled our medical budget without properly accounting. Obama is so expensive and it covers much less people, a huge waste.

Replacement for Obamacare can be budge neutral. You provide a fair and low cost health insurance plan and people would pay premiums to get coverage. If you devise a good and inexpensive plan, many small and large businesses will buy government insurance for its employees. When you have more people join the plan, the premium can be lowered even further.

In the future, you can have most of the working population buy health insurance with government health plan. Retired people and disabled can get government insurance with premium waived.

So that’s Obamacare.

No, Obamacare is not budget neutral. It costs taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. And it is not low cost.

We can have a national health insurance corporation people can join voluntarily. This corporation will be non-profit and no tax subsidy. It can be somewhat similar to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mae, or even FHA.

$500 billions covered 55 million elderly population. Obamacare is many times more expensive to taxpayers than Medicare for a younger population with a hefty personal premium.

Obama failed since his plan was bad and he forced his ideals to American people. So many executive orders on major issues and he did those for the purpose of being repealed.

This is the common liberal syndrome. They force their ideals to American people. They force open borders, they force Obamacare, they force that and this.

We spent so much on Obamacare. It would have been cheaper to put everyone without insurance on Medicaid.

Liberals never consider the cost. If you spend $10M to house a homeless guy, they may still praise it as an achievement. Typical OPM syndrome.

Liberals only consider one thing and ignore others. When they started talking about illegal immigrants, they are so eager to provide open border, sanctuary city, protecting illegal immigrants from law enforcement, even protecting illegal criminals from law enforcement. Their mind is so small that they can not consider all factors and come to a sensible thought. Their brain is single variable and single threaded.

Upscale health insurance is nice, but there are other basic needs as well. If you have a health insurance as good as retired Obama, but no food and no home, is it a good life?


I agree. Single payer is always better than the private public hybrid. Why don’t you guys call up Paul Ryan? He seems to be struggling to come up with a plan.

Did healthcare insurance companies donate more to Hillary/Obama than Trump?

It’s probably healthier to look at policies on their own terms and not turn everything into conspiracy theories.

Medicare and Medicaid is already a single payor system. Expand Medicaid or Medicare would solve the problem with working age people pay their own premium.

But this process needs to be gradual. Any sudden change could be a disaster. Obama has shown the danger of that and Bill Clinton has criticized Obama publicly.

We already had ObamaCare, it can’t be worse than that. No need to sweating about healthcare

Liberals are single variable and single threaded. They make these kind of accusations all the time. I might have read too much of SF liberal’s laughable accusations.

Nature says but humans refuse.

Single payer would be horrible if people have no incentive to be healthy. It would bankrupt the country. It’s great in small counties with homogenous populations that have similar values. Who’s going to tell the city of Detroit their obesity rate is out of control, and they need to fix it to get healthcare costs under control?

Trump is proposing to use Medicaid to replace ObamaCare, and give grants to states to administer Medicaid. This could be good news for California since we can combine Medicaid and MediCal

We had Medicaid for a long time. It makes senses to expand existing long running programs than inventing expensive new programs. How much did government spent to implement Obamacare? Their website costs billion dollars and crashed in the first week.

Medicare has a funding limit but Medicaid has been open ended with an unlimited budget. New proposal may also impose a spending limit just as MediCare. I think it is a responsible move. How can we have an unlimited budget for a government program?

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