Net Neutrality Goes Down! Should We Be Concerned?

LOL…Why should we care? said the cow on its way to the slaughter house.

See? We have Nextflix, which allegedly would benefit from this saying this is bad but those Trumputin supporters on this forum are always passing by what shows the bad things about anything the turds in congress are doing.

Well, we don’t want to be blocked from any content on the internet. We don’t want the ISP providers to start cutting their programming in pieces and charging us double than what we are paying for high speed or Netflix.

There’s way more competition in wireless than land line. 5G is going to be fast enough to be a legit land lane replacement. I wonder if this will push people off of land line and to wireless for homes. If that happens, Comcast and AT&T will regret this. They both have massive amounts of debt from building out infrastructure. If customers flee, they are screwed.

This morning’s move has effectively neutered regulations that prohibited internet service providers from blocking websites, throttling speeds, or charging premiums for certain content. The commission’s chairman, Ajit Pai, has defended the rollback by defiantly claiming that it would “promote competition.”

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The internet has become a public utility. A sizeable number, if not majority, consume their information(news, entertainment etc) over the internet. I fear that ISPs can moderate the dissemination of news to suit their political agenda in a more subtle way than the Russians. Throttling honest news sites like the Wapo, NYT , NPR and provide preferred access to Fox and Breitbart can create misinformed public.
What is the arguement for repealing “net neutrality”? The ISPs say they can foster innovation and better service to rural populace if net neutrality is abolished. I dont see how. This is a give away to the ISPs to charge more and enrich their shareholders.
We cannot rely on “free market” to police the ISPs bcos broadband is a monopoly.

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You explained it pretty good opamp.

Indeed, the twhitler in the white house wants his own radio/TV channel so they can speak wonderful things about him 24/7. By then, first his followers, then we the rest, will be marching on the streets behind the military on a parade in front of the white house.

Heil Trumputin! :rofl:

The public is already misinformed.

“Only one third of Americans can name the three branches of our federal government: executive, legislative, judicial”

“one third of Americans think that foreign aid is the government’s largest expense, and nearly half of Americans think cap and trade has to do with healthcare or financial regulation instead of the environment”

"When NEWSWEEK recently asked 1,000 U.S. citizens to take America’s official citizenship test, 29 percent couldn’t name the vice president. Seventy-three percent couldn’t correctly say why we fought the Cold War. Forty-four percent were unable to define the Bill of Rights. And 6 percent couldn’t even circle Independence Day on a calendar.

“A 2010 World Public Opinion survey found that Americans want to tackle deficits by cutting foreign aid from what they believe is the current level (27 percent of the budget) to a more prudent 13 percent. The real number is under 1 percent.”

“A Jan. 25 CNN poll, meanwhile, discovered that even though 71 percent of voters want smaller government, vast majorities oppose cuts to Medicare (81 percent), Social Security (78 percent), and Medicaid (70 percent). Instead, they prefer to slash waste—a category that, in their fantasy world, seems to include 50 percent of spending, according to a 2009 Gallup poll.”

https://www.alternet.org/culture/ignorant-america-just-how-stupid-are-we

That one has so many gems it’s hard to pick.

I guess the good news is even years ago people were ignorant:

“In 1991, Americans were asked how long the term of a United States senator is. Just 25% correctly answered six years. How many senators are there? A poll a few years ago found that only 20% know that there are 100 senators,”

"Which country dropped the nuclear bomb? Only 49% know it was their own country. "

Poor guy, how does it feel to be kissing Trumputin’s rear end?

http://reverepress.com/news/comcast-deleted-promise-keep-internet-open/

I thought this would be really bad for people. The rules have only been around since 2015 though.

Have the rules actually changed or impacted anyone’s internet?

Most of the hysteria about what might happen to the internet seems insane. That’s not how the internet was before the rules were created. Also, they aren’t saying there won’t be any rules. They are saying a different government agency will create them. Do we really need 2 agencies regulating this?

Exactly. The fear is exaggerated to the Moon. People are now worried that they won’t be able to access internet next year or pay $5 for each Instagram post.

It’s a mass psychological energy waste for some political gain.

Misinformation and misleading is a crime against the people

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If the rules haven’t impacted anyone why change? Where’s the urgency?

Comcast and ATT said there will be more innovations after the change. How? By charging companies for fast lanes? If that’s their intention we are right to be alarmed.

Broadband markets have been dwindling over the years because of consolidation. If broadband is like wireless where we have 4 companies competing I don’t mind. But home broadband often has only one reasonable option. We need a lot more regulatory oversight in these cases.

If not needed, let’s repeal the useless regulations. Unnecessary useless regulation hurts the world.

I am against over regulation. Free economy will give you what you need faster

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Was anyone charged for fast lanes before the rules? The internet has been around for 20+ years and was that ever an issue? More rules = more employees to verify compliance with rules. It drives up prices. Also, it drives up the number of government employees, since someone has to enforce the rules. If the rules haven’t helped at all, then we pay extra for them?

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Net neutrality rules are simple. Thou shalt treat all IP traffic the same. How’s that complicated?

If someone spends lots of money lobbying to repeal murder laws I have reasonable expectation he’s going to kill someone. How is that not reasonable?

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So back in 2014 was any of this a problem?

The full text of the regulation is 400 pages. So it’s not as simple as you claim.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/03/12/392544534/fcc-publishes-full-text-of-net-neutrality-rules

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The thing people forget was how Net Neutrality came to be. The FCC tried to get the big carriers to play fairly and Verizon and a bunch of others sued them. So when the case went to court, the court said - “hey by the way, why are you even coming to us, you can use your powers under Title II to police them” and that’s exactly what they did. So to all the nay sayers that everything was fine before it existed, that was because the powers to enforce were already inherent but not actively enforced. VZ suing the FCC to prevent them from enforcing it caused the actual implementation of net neutrality. Now the new FCC has basically dismantled the very means to promote fair behavior on the part of the carriers

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Bought 500 VZ.

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As I said, all these comments, most of them showing the ugliness of this administration bending anything to please their donors have a partisan view. And you can identify those posters that no matter the proof on the pudding they go against us worried about the rules making us spit another buck for the mantra “we need to help the rich guy”.

That simple.