Indiana number 1. 3%better than the average of 80%… seems the difference between the best and worst for business (Hawaii) isn’t much.
Obviously Indiana is bending over backwards to attract businesses. And it’s not working. Hawaii is near the top of the most desirable places to live on the planet. Hoosiers are escaping to Texas and Florida in droves… Ever been to Muncie?
Did you read that report which said per capita income in CA adjusted is in the lower 25 percentile?
All the rest of your personal opinions don’t matter.
I heard somewhere supposedly migrants will earn at a minimum $35/hour in Tahoe. I don’t know why I see(this is a recent phenomenon) a few migrants on the street corners now selling flowers on weekends instead of making $35/hour in Tahoe. Pretty sure they don’t currently make more than $5/hour.
Every few unemployed in Tahoe. We call our homeless campers. They escape the snow in the winter and return in summer. 
Even in Placerville and Folsom… no day laborers at Home Depot.
I heard there a lot at the El Cerrito one. Don’t know about the South Bay. I wonder where street vendors get their flowers?
Is this everywhere. Or just only before Valentine’s Day?
I do know for a fact that Uber drivers come up from Sacramento on the weekends. $40 from my house to the Casinos, 6 miles, in a Taxi. Uber can be as low as $20. I heard they sleep in their cars, unconfirmed. But Harrahs is charging $25 to park. Makes Uber more attractive.
My personal opinions are based on more than 50 years of observations. Statistics can be found by anyone and are easily manipulated and biased.
After Tahoe wages of $35/hour, In Bay Area the pay will be $70 per hour, wow utopia 
How much is a day laborer at your local Home Depot. I wonder if you ask a flower vendor to do hard physical labor… I doubt they would for $5/hr. Those poor people are being scammed buy their suppliers… just like street vendors in Mexico.
I wonder how important this information is. Hawaii is loosing people at a higher percentage than most included California. I thought it was paradise? These stats don’t reflect desirability. Probably more about affordability than anything else.
IMO Past 2 yrs are outliers, most likely you are right about affordability compromising on their quality of life (except for affordability)
A good friend of mine was head of Stanford’s ER. He interned in San Antonio. When he retired he moved back to Texas. His kids moved there too.
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It’s always been my opinion people should move to wherever that makes them happy. And people like different things. We are very lucky the US is freaking huge and we have so many places to choose from. If you don’t like CA, just move away.
For people who are still here, it must be because they are making a logical decision and decide, after weighing all factors like jobs, weather, taxes, politics, family etc, they decide this is the best option for them, right?
The root of most problems in CA is housing. Anti-growth and NIMBY’ism has been rampant for decades here and we gave up building anything. It’s not a left vs right issue. There are left NIMBY’s and there are right NIMBY’s. Good news is we are finally taking them on and started winning, but it’s a long road ahead.
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agreed - I’m not here to make lots of $$$, I like what the area offers as far as amenities and benefits.
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and inland states don’t have other amenities, what amenities do they have that we don’t? It’s not even a fair comparison…
Mountains, high Sonora desert, the Grand Canyon, Yellowstone, the Rockies, etc. etc.
Also, in many cases, superior services for lower taxes. And of course, far greater civil rights.
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There are 9 states with no income tax. So even there people have a lot of options. I personally can’t stand the South. For me Washington, New Hampshire, and Nevada are more attractive options than goddamn Texas. Different people like different things. I am glad Texas is there for people who like it.
you’re literally naming different landmarks across the US - all of those don’t lie within the same geographical area…
I’m fine paying my high taxes…
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Facts don’t lie.
The California exodus has shown no sign of slowing down as the state’s population dropped by more than 500,000 people between April 2020 and July 2022, with the number of residents leaving surpassing those moving in by nearly 700,000.
The states with the highest population increases between April 2020 and July 2022 were Texas and Florida, which gained about 884,000 and 707,000 people, respectively.
No amount of bragging about CA’s attractiveness would change above facts.
Do you expect my situation to be the same as those 500K people who left? Most of them are lower income and lower educated and can’t afford a house in CA, let alone the Bay Area.
You have kids working in IT? That’s even less reason to leave the Bay Area, the Shaolin Temple of tech. Instead of practicing with and learning from the Masters in Shaolin, you banish your sons to the desert where they will forever lag behind the frontier.
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The California exodus has shown no sign of slowing down as the state’s population dropped by more than 500,000 people between April 2020 and July 2022…
I don’t know why you followed the poor people out of CA, instead of following the rich Asians.
Cost of living is clearly a major factor, as lower-income members of every racial and ethnic group leave more often than they arrive. But there are large racial gaps even within income levels. For the lowest-income residents, whites have a much higher net flow out of the state (-10.9 per 1,000) than African Americans (-7.7), Latinos (-4.2), and Asian Americans (-1.6). At the other end of the spectrum, higher-income Asian Americans are notably more likely to move into the state than out of it (4.8 per 1,000). In contrast, higher-income African Americans are about equally likely to move into or out of the state (-0.2 per 1,000), while higher-income Latinos (-1.6) and whites (-2.9) are more likely to move out of the state.
Even the middle income Asians chose to come into CA.
