That’s my whole point. Every geographic area has amenities that California doesn’t.
I’d rather pay low taxes and get twice the services.
Same thing that the data that was posted has already indicated and it’s logical that this applies to both educated and less educated people.
Paul Ong, director of the Center for Neighborhood Knowledge at UCLA, pointed to economic, health and sociopolitical factors driving people to leave the state. He noted that housing prices in California have pushed many to move to states where costs are lower.
“While salaries in other regions and states are lower, the cost of housing is even lower,” he said. “This means that they have a higher standard of living because of more disposable income and/or high chance of owning.”
I met a guy skiing today in the lift. He was from Dallas.
He usually skis In Colorado. He loves Heavenly and was impressed. I doubt anyone vacations in Dallas. Just met another neighbor refugee moved from Houston at 47. Chemical engineer in the oil business. Works remotely. Will never return to Texas.
Cost is what you pay. Value is what you get in return.
CA has higher cost of living than TX. In return you get things that aren’t available in TX. If you don’t value those things then by all means move away.
I like it here and the higher cost doesn’t bother me. Do I wish the cost were lower? Absolutely. But I also understand things come in a package and I don’t get to pick and choose.
If it bothers you, do something about it. Voting with your feet is the most effective way.
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Even if we assume it’s true, in many peoples minds Seems like value of CA is decreasing and people think it’s not worth it(as shown by ppl leaving vs earlier when population on net increased)
Anyways people who have problems with this “analysis “ please complain to Peter Ong at UCLA(link in earlier post) since he is in a position of authority unlike laymen like me here.
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I think we can all agree that CA is a great place to make bank if you’re young, educated AND talented.
What we disagree on is whether it’s a good place to enjoy the wealth you hopefully accumulate. No way to quantify that.
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Right, because people have different tastes and priorities.
I don’t like rural. You do. We both live happily in our own quarters. This country is big enough for both of us. What’s not to love?
The only thing not to love is the never ending creep of federal power and the push to try and make us all live the same way. Recipe for conflict.
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I think federalism is sill alive and well. A friend of mine moved to NH to get lower taxes and less of a nanny state than CA. He didn’t move to TX or FL because he thought they are too far to the right.
That’s what I meant we have lots of options. Even among states with no income tax, we have WA on the far left to FL/TX to the far right.
You won’t find this in CA for sure. 80 acres of land with a freaking cave and underground waterfall. Costs less than 300K.
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/0-Pool-Holler-Cave-Rd-Rolla-MO-65401/2059407027_zpid/
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Pending offer after 8 days.
At least you have a place to get cool in the summer 
I don’t find the landscape particularly appealing though. Of course the pictures are taken in winter.
Need to repeat this message… some bloggers don’t seem to understand…
No amount of bragging about CA’s attractiveness would change the fact that…
The California exodus has shown no sign of slowing down as the state’s population dropped by more than 500,000 people between April 2020 and July 2022, with the number of residents leaving surpassing those moving in by nearly 700,000.
The 700,000 don’t share your 
preference.
California has been losing US citizens for a LONG time. Legal and illegal immigrants were making up the difference. Now that SV has lost its mojo, the legal immigration is much lower. It’ll be up to open border policies boosting illegal immigration. That’s not going to help the state’s financial situation.
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I suspect below…
So I rofl when I read…
I don’t even bother to correct 500k… is 700k
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I see some people are bashing immigrants again.
SMH.
CA has a housing shortage. To accommodate new people we have to push out some. Take a look at the educational profile of immigrants to CA below. Who would you rather have? Joe the Plumber, or Xiaoming the CS PhD?
Yes, someone will have to pay for this low paid population. Somebody is legal taxpayers.
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I see some people don’t understand legal vs. illegal immigration.
If California is gaining so many high income people, why has the state population tripled while the number of state income tax payers is flat? The state is so prosperous that the top 1% or paying almost 50% of the state income taxes.
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CA tax income is heavily dependent on high income earners. You are answering your own question. It’s because CA gained some many high income earners, and those people make so much, that it can afford to just rely on their taxes to fund programs. The threshold of what qualifies as “high income” keeps going higher too.
Does CA have illegal immigrants? Of course it does. But we are not discussing this topic aren’t we? You guys keep harping on domestic migration, and my counter is that I don’t really care about domestic migration as long as we keep the pipeline of highly educated immigrants open.
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Instead of talking fact-free, here’s some immigration numbers.
Recent Census Bureau estimates show net immigration to California increasing to 126,000 from July 2021–July 2022. This was almost triple the net flow from July 2020–July 2021 (44,000), the lowest in at least three decades—a consequence of the pandemic and policies that limited travel.
Data from the Center for Migration Studies shows that 78% of immigrants in California were either naturalized or had some other legal status (including green cards and visas), and about 22% were undocumented as of 2019.
From 2010 to 2019, the number of undocumented immigrants in the state fell from 2.9 million to 2.3 million.
Vast majority of immigrants are legal immigrants. So stop spreading the misinformation that most immigrants are illegal. Do we have an illegal immigrant problem? Yes, we do. But that problem is actually getting better, not worse. Number of illegal immigrants fell 20% between 2010 and 2019.
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