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Chicago might be second position. I have been there and got junior NYC vibe a bit
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Iâve been to Chicago a few times. Latest was last year. I got the impression that itâs a bit lacking in cultural diversity and thus not as an interesting place as NYC and SF. Like I have trouble finding quality Chinese food there. NYC has way more breath and depth than Chicago.
I think SF is solidly number 2 to NYC, even though itâs sorta distant number 2. What SF lacks in city vibes it more than makes it up in its natural beauties. Even the Golden Gate Park is bigger than NYCâs Central Park, the only ânatureâ within 2 hoursâ drive of NYC.
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What defines cultural depth and breadth other than good Chinese food?
I have a cousin in Boulder. Lots of natural beauty but they also have their own symphony even though they are right next door to Denver.
Phoenix has a world class botanical garden. It would take most of the day to see it all. They also have a fairly impressive aquarium or so Iâm told; I keep meaning to visit it but never seem to get around to that. A wildlife sanctuary has cougars, a bear and lots of grey wolves. You can closer to all of them than at just about any zoo.
Never really âgotâ the whole city thing. Iâd visit a place for restaurants and clubbing but I wouldnât live there for that.
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I meant breath and depth in a cityâs cultural diversity. Food is the most obvious category. It doesnât have to be Chinese of course. Just substitute it with Korean/Japanese/Jewish/Russian/Mexican etc.
Besides food, you can look at if you just parachute someone from Country X into a town, does that town have everything that person will want in order to live a life largely similar to where he comes from? Like does the town have the temples/mosques/churches of his faith? What about grocery? Clothing? Etc.
Little Payson has Chinese, Japanese, Thai, Italian and Mexican food. And good old what used to be called âcontinental cuisine.â Clothes - just the basics. Anyone wanting to blend with locals could find a good outfit. Churches - not so much; plenty of them but all Christian denominations.
But when was the last time you set foot in a mosque, mandir or gurdwara?
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Isnât the point of leaving a country to live a new and better life?
That stuff actually sounds pretty good.
Do armed guards keep the homeless out?
New and better life doesnât mean a complete cutoff from their original food and customs.
Why I said breath and depth. You may have one or two Chinese restaurants at Payson but pretty sure there is no depth to it. China is a freaking huge country and its food is quite different from one region to the next.
Never. But I have visited many temples even though I am an atheist. I am glad they are there for the people who need them.
Look, there is no rule saying any place has to be diverse. For people who donât care thatâs fine. But for those of us who do care I am glad I live in the Bay Area and not Wyoming or North Dakota.
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Why do you prefer south lake to north lake? I was up in Truckee recently and was shocked at how much it has been developed.
Truckee is not in Tahoe basin. Anything outside the Tahoe basin can be developed without the tyranny of the TRPA. Besides Truckee wasnât on that the list in the article. I agree Martis Camp is pretty amazing⌠albeit tied to an underwhelming ski resort. As far as living on the Lake, South Lake Tahoe is the only incorporated city. 5-10 times larger than any other lake community. Has all the amenities of a big city. The best beaches on the lake. The biggest ski resort. The best hiking. 200 restaurants. The casinos the entertainment. The only hospital. Five hardware stores two lumber yards⌠a new Target. Affordable lake front houses. A few under $1million.
Plenty of great places around the Lake for weekend visits. But for full time living South Lake Tahoe is best for me. And only 50 minutes to Squaw Valley if I need my extreme skiing fix.
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Squaw Valley?
Donât you mean âPalisades Tahoe?â 
Exactly. North Shore is too woke for meâŚlol
BTW⌠Truckee is known for FlatstarâŚ
There is a war against rural areas in California. The state wants everyone to live in rabbit hutches in downtown high rises.
They want to take away your water, tax your gasoline to death, take away your gas heat, let your insurance company drop you and force you out of the forest. Urban voters are out to get us country folk and we are mad as hell. Meanwhile smug progressive propaganda is promoting living unhoused in city streets as some sort of urban utopia⌠truly disgusting and insane.
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