Boeing hard hit today after crash 737-Max

Title of the Fox news is misleading readers. Gross over the other critical comment!

“It has been obvious since the Lion Air crash that a redesign of the 737 MAX 8 has been urgently needed, yet has still not been done, and the announced proposed fixes do not go far enough,” Sullenberger wrote.

Software fix to counter balance the inherent tail heavy is a dangerous fix that try to save billion of dollars in redesigning the aero-mechanical of the airplanes.

Time to respond in current 737 situation is much shorter than the “miracle” situation. Can a highly trained and experienced Sully able to handle the 737 situation?

He can do better than the guy with 200 hrs.

I like a plane that’s safe to drive with 200 hours of training better. If 200 hours of training means crash and death of 156 people, I think it should be grounded forever.

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What about a car? 100 times more dangerous than planes. Plenty of drivers with less than 200 hrs. And plenty of crashes with drivers with 20,000 hrs…

You can still crash the car, escape from accident, life is possible after the crash, but plane no chance !

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:+1: Is the subtle message of Chesley. PC to add in the insufficient training. There is a design flaw, period. Whatever software fixes they have done, is never safe to fly 737 max 8.

:+1: slow moving cars vs extremely fast planes; diving planes vs upward flying planes. Proper comparisons are so hard for some people.

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People prefer cars because they are in control. Even though unsafe compared to planes. That is why automatic driving cars will have to 100 times safer than current cars before they become acceptable.

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The safety analysis:

  • Understated the power of the new flight control system, which was designed to swivel the horizontal tail to push the nose of the plane down to avert a stall. When the planes later entered service, MCAS was capable of moving the tail more than four times farther than was stated in the initial safety analysis document.
  • Failed to account for how the system could reset itself each time a pilot responded, thereby missing the potential impact of the system repeatedly pushing the airplane’s nose downward.
  • Assessed a failure of the system as one level below “catastrophic.” But even that “hazardous” danger level should have precluded activation of the system based on input from a single sensor — and yet that’s how it was designed.
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Southwest Boeing 737 Max made an emergency landing in Orlando; FAA cites engine issue unrelated to recent crashes

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/26/southwest-boeing-737-max-reportedly-made-an-emergency-landing-at-orlando-international-airport.html

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Already Boeing lost huge orders from China ! Indonesia cancelled orders too.

Really good summary of Boeing’s bad decisions from Vox

Uh oh:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/boeings-737-max-software-outsourced-204657048.html

“Increasingly, the iconic American planemaker and its subcontractors have relied on temporary workers making as little as $9 an hour to develop and test software, often from countries lacking a deep background in aerospace – notably India.

In offices across from Seattle’s Boeing Field, recent college graduates employed by the Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd. occupied several rows of desks, said Mark Rabin, a former Boeing software engineer who worked in a flight-test group that supported the Max.

The coders from HCL were typically designing to specifications set by Boeing. Still, “it was controversial because it was far less efficient than Boeing engineers just writing the code,” Rabin said. Frequently, he recalled, “it took many rounds going back and forth because the code was not done correctly.””

That’s not the MAX though - that’s the 737-800, the type that is commonly used between SFO and LAX.

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Rumors, it was hit by Iranian missile !

It’s superficially comic but ultimately tragic when you think about the innocent people impacted – between the plane being accidentally shot down and the stampede at Soleimani’s funeral over 200 civilians have been killed, most of them Iranian. Not one US soldier or citizen has yet been injured by their “revenge.”

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What’s really interesting are the multiple earthquakes near Iran’s nuclear plant after the attack. Now that we seem to have evidence the plane crash was “pilot error”, maybe some truth will surface soon about the earthquakes.

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