I call it climate guilt.
There are virtually no routes that I drive that have chargers without significant detours. The only chargers available are standard 240’s. An hour on one would get me another 20 miles down the road - like that helps.
Not sure what you mean by gassing up at “odd hours.” I’ve never driven into a closed gas station unless it was down for maintenance. As I’ve said before even reporting for jury duty in an EV would be a struggle.
There are currently about 160 gas stations for every one Tesla charger. So if Tesla can increase the number of chargers by at least a factor of 50 and get the charging time down by 1/2 to 3/4 - OK, sure, but I’m not holding my breath for that. They’ve had over a decade.
It’s just guilt period. It has nothing to actually do with climate. There are studies on it. People who believe success is due to luck feel guilty about it. People who feel success is from hard work don’t feel guilty. You can literally predict how people vote based on it.
What routes do you drive > 300 miles that have no chargers? Or maybe > 150 miles out and back?
Remember with EVs you will start the trip with a full charge if you desire.
Not odd hours for filling up gas, but have to do it at random days or on way to or from work etc… when you may be in a rush. I mean I know I drove a gas car for over 20 years!
Why would reporting to jury duty be struggle in an EV? I start every day with 200 + miles (or even 300) if I so choose.
Your home is a charger.
No odd hours for me. Always fill up gas at Costco when I do grocery. Rhythm 
without fail.
My desert getwaway is 170 miles each way and I want to go places when I get there; not stand around waiting for my car to charge at 20 miles per hour off my dryer outlet. And if I’m in a rush 5 minutes at a gas station which I can find just about about anywhere along my route beats 30-60 minutes at a supercharger. Sure -my house is my charger - while I wait for hours. Jury duty is 105 miles each way with a large elevation change. Maybe, after a long day there, I still need to go somewhere when it’s over.
The plug-in model defeats the whole purpose of a car as a means of personnel transportation. Elt’s link to Bay Area craigslist ties it - if the model works so well than why are thousands of people trying to unload their Tesla for far less than they paid for it?
Original version? Or latest iteration?
Thus guy is dumping his Tesla. Was for commuting. Without needing to use the HOV lane the car is useless.
Offer $35k. He paid near $60k new fully loaded. Asking $48k
2019 tesla
VIN: 5YJ3E1EB3KF493840
condition: like new
cylinders: other
drive: 4wd
fuel: electric
odometer: 13738
paint color: white
size: mid-size
title status: clean
transmission: automatic
type: sedan
Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor Long Range 310 Year: 2019
DESCRIPTION:
All black premium interior
Pearl White Multi-Coat Paint
18" Aero Wheels
Dual Motor All-Wheel Drive
Long Range All-Wheel Drive
Base Autopilot
I bought this beautiful brand new Tesla vehicle in 2019 in September before Covid has started, due to the working from home, I don’t use this car, it is sitting in a garage most of the time.
I am the only driver, car is extremely clean and like new, with very low milage 13,738.
Has carpool purple stickers.
My car was never abused, has never been in an accident, no one has ever smoked in a car, no pets.
Car is in immaculate condition.
Registration is paid through September 2021
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I have a cousin who’s into “green” everything. She recently sold her Tesla stock in a fit of rage over their bitcoin investment which she claims has completely negated all of the carbon they’ve kept out of the atmosphere to date due to the massive carbon footprint of bitcoin mining. I wonder why any company with a solid business plan would be speculating in bitcoin.
She recently tried to get involved in a project to electrify an Indian reservation with solar. She couldn’t drive her Tesla to the reservation. Chargers too far away from it and no power on the reservation - which is why she was going there in the first place.
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Pot Bitcoin and Tesla. Millennials too stoned to be woke
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The reason people are getting rid of 3yo Tesla’s is that you need an EV 3 years or younger to qualify for the HOV lane. Most people in Bay Area are so rich that time is money, and they’d rather throw away a 30k car, and then get a new car so they can save 30 min on their commute.
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This is a 2019 not three years old. The point is without all the subsidies and BS Tesla wouldn’t even exist. The idea that it is environmentally friendly is a joke and allowing subsidized money to purchase Bitcoin( the energy pig) an even bigger joke. Ban Bitcoin not ICE. The government should not subsidize the dumping of three year old cars. Totally environmentally unsustainable
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didn’t she know manufacturing a new EV has carbon footprint? It’s the long term use which offsets it or buying used EV helps reduce carbon footprint. Also bitcoin uses lesser energy than gold mining and it’s less than 0.01% of global emission as far as I know.
Once you mine something the consumption of power is over. with Bitcoin, other crypto-tokens, the new NFT fad, power consumption never goes away and only keeps increasing because you need to keep the blockchain mining to ensure proof of work and/or proof of stake. it’s an endless black hole of resource consumption.
bitcoin alone (leave aside all the other coins and NFTs) now consume a sizeable portion of the world’s energy production:
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Should have done it long ago. No need to wait until Yellen to say so. Now the implication is HUGE. Many folks have bought bitcoin… collapsing it would mean… can Yellen survive the repercussions of the collapse of bitcoin?
By omitting many processes in bitcoin lifecycle… @BA_lurker pointed out some.
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But is .51 or .59 a big percentage?
more power then many nations use. that is 0.59% of total global energy consumption for a ponzi scheme that enriches a few and it will keep increasing each year (due to how bitcoin works).
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Exactly. Is a multi-marketing scheme. The late comers are paying BIG $$$ for the earlier miners.
" the state wouldn’t have to convert croplands or disrupt natural habitats to set up sprawling solar farms—a canal is already on long-disturbed land."
Nice to see someone admitting this cost of solar for a change. Highway medians on long stretches would work as well.