Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 Covid-19

Pelosi has no doubt been in contact with infected people as well - and already looks like she needs a taxidermist.

England in deep shit

It could get that high but would likely be spread out over more than a year.

NHS is an epic disaster yet they are so proud of it. They just don’t know any better.

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This is what causes people to panic. Patients violently sick and still denied testing. People realize we are flying in the dark and no one has a clue.

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not if you play for the NBA

What would testing them do? How would it change their treatment or care? Anyone with symptoms is supposed to self-quarantine so they should do that.

No one thinks kids are immune. Everyone’s just grateful that they get a lighter case than the adults. No one wants to be burying the young.

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Very very very scary indeed.

Still think widespread testing is meaningless?

What would it do?

First, so authority and the public know the full scale of the problem. How do you deal with something when you don’t know how bad it has become?

And second, to calm the public.

We already know what actions are needed to prevent spreading and are taking them. What more can people do?

The public is going to panic no matter what. I don’t see how testing more people will reduce the panic.

The issue is the asymptomatic or relatively asymptomatic patients. A five year old going to school with a cough could spread it to 100s of other children and subsequently their families. We need to be testing individuals with mild symptoms to shut this down. These people are unlikely to self quarantine without a confirmed positive.

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Give us accurate growth numbers. There’s a difference between 80 cases and 8000 cases. Beause in two weeks with no change in behavior, it’d be 800 vs. 80000 cases.

Also John’s Hopkins update states COVID-19 can be contagious for longer than 14 days.

Also would change whether family members should self-isolate. (To be clear, a lot of kids around me are getting colds, and the families are saying it’s not COVID-19 because the kids weren’t exposed. How do we know???)

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(From John’s Hopkins daily email) CLINICAL COURSE OF COVID-19 A study published on March 11 in The Lancet provides analysis of the progression of the COVID-19 disease in survivors and non-survivors. The study involved 191 hospitalized COVID-19 patients (54 deaths, 137 discharged) in Wuhan, China. Notably, the study describes the timing of various aspects of disease progression in hospitalized patients, including the time from first symptom onset to the onset of various symptoms/conditions, including dyspnoea, sepsis, and ARDS as well as their duration. The article also reports the time to and duration of ICU admission. The study found an increase in the odds of death with increased age, and the mean duration of viral shedding was 20 days from symptom onset in survivors and continuously until death in non-survivors (maximum duration: 37 days). The study found no evidence that antiviral treatment reduces the duration of viral shedding.

We’ve already changed behavior, so why does it matter? Every sport has shutdown. Any large gatherings are shutdown. Schools are closed. Companies are having employees work from home. What additional action would there be to take?

Guidance is already anyone with symptoms should isolate.

You want every American with a sniffle to self quarantine? We are looking at Great Depression then.

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