So, when do we go back in time to the 1800s when the first Chinese came and go with a CLM (Chinese Lives Matter) movement???
Look, there are black people who are very successful such as professional athletes and celebrities, and there are black people not doing very well who happened to live in Ferguson.
Likewise, there are successful Chinese people who are CEOs of tech companies, and there are Chinese people not doing very well who happened to live in Chinatown.
You canāt expect every Chinese American to be successful like those CEOs and you should show some compassion to those not as talented rather than criticizing their misfortune. And the fact that you support poor black people but not poor Chinese people is just beyond my grasp and I think you should re-evaluate your stance.
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Anyway Chinatown hasnāt changed much for more than 100 years. I donāt think it will change much in another 100 for various reasons. Take a walk on Stockton st. Tell me how it will change in the next 20 years. It wonāt.
I donāt expect everyone to be successful, but I DO expect people to try to be Americans. And so many people in Chinatown are not trying to be Americans. At. All. Please donāt conflate this with āyouāre not supporting people.ā
My position is ā if you come to this country, you have to at least try to assimilate, even if just a little.
Me no no understand, too foreign, forgive piss, me stay here, outside scary much. Land belongs to all humans, me no no understand why belong a group who use biological warfare to eliminate others. Why people proud them of?
Youāre right ā why is that? Why is it that HK or Singapore can re-invent itself but Chinatown is seemingly trapped in this self-view of itself from the 1950s? I struggle with that.
å«äøå±± for president! (tongue in cheek)
For every ethnicity group you will find some people nice, clean, patriotic, or filthy, greedy, treacherous. If somebody is going to grossly generalize about a specific race/ethnicity entirely, they will always find reason to do so. It is not fair to blame it on that race/ethnicity. Blame the people who generalize instead.
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Well, that is what is wonderful and sad about this country right? You can do and reach for the stars, or not. I just feel you are making Chinatown way more than it is. Keep in mind I grew up there so have seen sooooo many generations of people move out and do well in life that I know that Chinatown is not the cause for much concern.
Donāt know why Chinatown hasnāt changed much but I am cool with it. Frankly for people living there they like it that way too. I know people taking hour long bus trips there to do grocery shopping. So it works for a lot of people as is. Ultimately itās all market force. Rent control is city wide. Itās not a Chinatown specific thing. If Mission gentrified but Chinatown doesnāt youād have to give it to market forces. Maybe the old guards like @sfdragonboy likes it the way it is.
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Whether they try to assimilate or not is their own business and not yours. They are here to stay in America and in my eyes they are not any less American than you or the white guy next door. As a Chinese American myself Iām here to support all Chinese Americans, doesnāt matter if they are a FOB or a banana like you.
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Usually people who make gross generalizations donāt know much about the other side. They donāt have friends or family in those groups so itās easy to caricature.
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I agree ā¦ which is why Iād love for more assimilation to happen. Cross-pollination, more friends, and then it becomes harder to caricature.
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I will concede and say that it is a tad more dirty than it needs to be but come on it is kinda cool and old school, no? No, I do not like Millbrae - Chinatown South!!!
Yes, Iāve always had a soft spot for Chinatown. I donāt like Millbrae one bit. However, I reserve my softest spot for Sunsetā¦ 
Wow, I guess I am not the ultimate Sunset fanboy anymoreā¦
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Not sun rise?
Do We Really Want Immigrants to Assimilate?
A few years ago Nathan Glazer posed the question: āIs Assimilation Dead?ā His answer was yes, more or lessācertainly as a national ideal or policy objectiveā¦
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American assimilation is live and kicking ass. Second generation immigrants speak their ancestor tongue embarrassingly bad. For example @sfdragonboy canāt even eat chicken feet!! Such travesty!
I heard the same is true for Mexican kids, that their Spanish is pretty broken. Compared to Europe our melting pot is super hot.
Guiltyā¦
To my defense, I will do this, but not thatā¦
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That means thereās no need to force anybody to assimilateā¦ and why would you ever want to criticize somebody who refused to do so? They are a gem! 