There was discussion about this on Bloomberg radio today and apparently NYT had an article about it back in June. Wonder if Silicon Valley is next.
All of California is next: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB168
Do companies still ask that? I get asking salary expectations, so you don’t waste time on candidates you can’t afford. It’s better to ask them the range for the position and decline if the range is too low.
I only ask for expectations. Candidates often volunteer their current comp, particularly if it is above market and they are hoping to anchor expectations to be higher.
Yes, a lot of them still do. And most candidates don’t object to sharing that info.
I get asking current comp but a full history? All that matters is current vs what they are offering.
I get asking current comp but a full history? All that matters is current vs what they are offering.
I agree. I have never seen anyone asking full salary history. Only the current comp. And there too, if candidate pushes back, most recruiters will switch to salary expectation. Thing is, most candidates don’t push back!
I’m glad there are sites like glassdoor now. You can get a good idea of the range before you even apply or interview. It’s amazing how companies can inconsistently apply titles. Plus, companies can have very different comp strategies when it comes to how much is base, bonus, and stock.
I’ve interviewed with several companies in BA in the last couple years month and all have asked me for current salary - I refused to provide to all - first company’s HR rep got very hostile with me and provided statement “well we can figure it out in background check anyway” and 2nd company’s HR rep was more understanding and instead respected my decision not to provide.
They came back to me with a number and we negotiated from there. After I accepted offer they moved onto background check with company “Hireright” which I will add was able to obtain my exact base salary down to the decimal from both my previous companies and provided it to new company. I was shocked and still don’t understand how they got this information - I have a friend who works in HR at my previous company all they usually provide when contacted is dates of employment and confirmation I worked there. So this Hireright either did something shady to obtain or has some backdoor way of getting payroll or tax return information. Net message is - don’t give this and don’t like about it either because they can verify through a background check apparently.
HR departments share information amongst themselves especially salary, so don’t lie, they ask you first and then run a check on whether you’re lying or not plus who you are. SV is a small world.
I wonder if ADP sells the info to a third party service. Most companies use ADP for their payroll.
I wonder if ADP sells the info to a third party service. Most companies use ADP for their payroll.
So this Hireright either did something shady to obtain or has some backdoor way of getting payroll or tax return information.
my first suspicion is on ADP. @britt522 did both your previous employers use ADP?
Yes both used ADP I had that thought as well
Hireright and ADP are partners
https://www.hireright.com/partners/view/adp-recruiting-management/
Hireright says on their website that they provide salary history as part of employment verification. They mention using databases but obviously don’t mention the exact sources used.
https://www.hireright.com/solutions/verifications/employment-verification-work-history/
After I accepted offer they moved onto background check with company “Hireright” which I will add was able to obtain my exact base salary down to the decimal from both my previous companies and provided it to new company
I don’t mind providing my current salary during hiring process but this sounds really wrong.
Is it legal?
If people lie about their current pay and get a very good offer, does the company have a right to rescind the offer?
Ideally, company should decide on the offer based on candidate’s capability. But with a few hours of talking and interview, it my be still hard to decide how much the candidate is worth.