Switzerland's take on illegals

Let each Canton (= state) set it’s own policy with the federal government still approving each immigrant.

“Applicants must prove that they are financially independent, do not receive welfare benefits and have lived in Switzerland for at least ten years (or five if they have children). The CSP estimates that a single person paying 1,500 Swiss francs for health insurance and an apartment would have to earn at least 2,500 francs.”

Good! At least they have a brain.

Manish Rai Jain
Manish Rai Jain, Lived and worked in Zürich for 2 years

Updated 25 Feb 2016 · Featured in Business Insider

I lived in Switzerland for 2 yrs, and then moved to the US. Life in general in Switzerland is IMO, better than US, and here’s why:

1.Higher standard of living: Swiss cities, houses and food are all top quality. Crime is very low, so you’d feel pretty safe roaming around in the middle of night all alone. There are no beggars on the street, and everybody around you looks very well off; it’s surreal. You can drink from any public water fountain in the city, and all public places are kept really clean. There are many reasons why Zürich consistently is rated as one of the top 3 cities in the world to live in. Mercer Quality of Living Survey
2.Higher pay and lower taxes: Swiss wages are pretty high. If you’re a waiter, you get paid a minimum 20 CHF per hour. If you’re an engineer or a banker, your salary is better than that of your US colleagues. On top of that, the taxes are relatively lower. Swiss Tax Calculator
3.Amazing public transportation / travel opportunities: You’re right in the middle of Europe. From Zürich, Germany is an hour away, France and Italy are 2. Everything else is a few hours by flight. The trains are all on time, and the transportation both intra-city and inter-city is very good. You can pinpoint any remote location and reach there solely by public transportation. Switzerland is also part of Schengen treaty, even though it’s not part of the European Union. That means, citizens of visa-deprived countries (like India / China) can roam around freely in the EU if they’re living / working in Switzerland. SBB: Swiss Train System
4.Better work life balance, and emphasis on sports: People work to live there. 8-5 culture is the norm, and people don’t work on evenings or weekends. This applies not only to office-going folks, but also to general stores / shopping malls etc. Minus the bars, the entire city of Zurich closes at 7pm on weekdays, and opens only until 4pm on Saturday (Thanks for correction: Thierry Blancpain). Nothing is open on Sundays. Everybody I knew was doing at least 2 sports on a regular basis, which also explains why Swiss are so fit.
5.Almost free education even during undergrad studies: As opposed to US, where an undergrad can cost you a mortgage and your parents have to save their entire lives for, the best of Swiss universities charge only ~500 CHF per semester, regardless of nationality. This includes world renowned universities like ETH Zurich, and EPFL Lausanne, and is true even for master studies. ETH - Rektorat - Semestergebühren/-beiträge
6.Clean smog-free air / beautiful mountains and landscape: Swiss really care about the environment. Air conditioners are frowned upon, if not entirely forbidden. Even when summer brought 32 degrees Celsius (~90F), we had to make do with fans both at home and at office. Ah, the horror! But well, it’s good for the environment, and summer doesn’t last that long. Another good example is the Gotthard Rail tunnel that Swiss are building to cut down on the number of trucks between Switzerland and Italy. Gotthard Base Tunnel
7.Food / Chocolate / Beer / Wine: The best of Swiss chocolate isn’t sold at airports worldwide (I’m looking at you Lindt). In Switzerland, you get to eat Sprüngli, which IIRC, has its main branch in Paradeplatz in Zürich, right in front of Credit Suisse and UBS headquarters, and isn’t available outside the country. In Switzerland, you can find good selection of Italian, French and German food as well. And you wouldn’t be complaining about beer and wine. Swiss chocolat.

So, why did I move? Now, here are 3 reasons where the US (well, California) fares better than Switzerland:
1.Weather: Switzerland isn’t known for its great weather. It’s cold and wet 9 months of the year, and hot and wet for the rest. California boasts a weather straight out of heaven (minus the earthquakes, that is).
2.Silicon Valley: If you’re a software engineer, your Mecca lies in the San Francisco bay area. The choice of great ambitious companies, and cutting edge technology is unmatched in the rest of the world. Zürich only has a few software companies, so if you choose to live there, you’re pretty much stuck working for them.
3.Foreigners are tourists: Swiss don’t believe in foreigners contributing to their society. For them, foreigners are something they have to bear with, and protect their society from. They’re really kind-hearted people once you get to know them, but you wouldn’t feel at home living there.


Switzerland has lower income tax rates than the US and zero tax on investment income. They don’t have inheritance tax either. Switzerland even has lower corporate tax rates than the US. Switzerland attracts rich people who want to live there, because they have to pay very little in taxes.

They are the exact OPPOSITE of what the democrats want to do in America. Who knew @buyinghouse was a republican?

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I was in Zurich in January and took these lovely pictures just for buyinghouse, A garden in winter and the plaque on the apartment facing it.

You mean a, I am not going to say hypocrite, but someone I know that states "well, I am not a Twhitler supporter but he is not bad, democrats always are. Oki Doki! :scream:

Oh wow! Looks like Oregon, NY, Canada in winter. Thanks for the pictures…not!

You could have brought something tangible you cheap guy! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Switzerland is super expensive, these undocumented maids make $40k a year…McDonalds is $20/meal…
They need all the cheap immigrant labor they can get

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It’s not so much that they are expensive. It’s just that they have a currency which holds it’s value due to sound fiscal and monetary policies and strict controls on immigration while everyone else’s currency devalues. In 1970 - about 4 Swiss Francs to the dollar. Now - about 1.
Oh and their healthcare system - one of the few in Europe which meets or exceeds US standards - is private, not “single payer.”

Or maybe their currency is strong because Switzerland is the money laundry capital of the world

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