Tariffs

Recession is already here.

Rumor flying around that WH is contemplating freezing American Chinese’s asset. If true, probably won’t differentiate between China-born and non-China born. So if all your assets are in USA, :pray:

Most of these business owners voted for their own financial ruin, including the guy who posted it.

Don’t think these men are very smart.

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Trump tariffs live updates: Bessent says it’s ‘up to China’ to deescalate trade tensions

Reports emerged last week that China quietly rolled back tariffs on some US semiconductor products, easing pressure on its tech sector, along with certain US pharmaceuticals.

Wise

This trade war makes life difficult for less wealthy people in both nations. For wealthy guys, just reduced NW, quality of life has not changed. Wealthy American consumers don’t buy stuff from TEMU, SHEIN and Walmart. SHEIN gets their products from poor family in China.

Whichever side you join is unfavorable. What to do?

Tariffs on cars made in the US. I thought the idea was to have companies make stuff here.

Pragmatic.

Did international trade really kill American manufacturing?

https://archive.is/2025.04.30-105746/https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2025/04/25/did-international-trade-really-kill-american-manufacturing

Environmentalists killed American manufacturing. I don’t have a link handy but there’s an American knife maker that had to scramble to source domestic steel in light of the tariffs. They used to get their steel from a New York company. That company was put out of business by enviro-wackos on account of steel manufacture being coal intensive. As though China were on another planet or something and we weren’t all breathing the same air.

Manufacturing has been going down since the 50s. “Environmentalists” may push it down a bit because no one likes to live next to a factory pumping out toxic smoke. But it’s not the main reason manufacturing went downhill.

Our wages have gone too high for many manufacturing jobs to make sense. Instead of knives we still make cars and semiconductors. Every advanced economy went through the same transition. China is going through it right now, kicking and screaming.

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Heads I win tails you lose.

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Agree. Singapore has been transiting from manufacturing to service economy too. Singapore has accelerated the transition by pushing wage up ( Singapore civil service is the largest employer), offering incentives for regional HQs and producing more graduates.

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U.S. economy shrank 0.3% in the first quarter as Trump policy uncertainty weighed on businesses

Even within manufacturing we are moving to higher value added stuff.

Tim Cook has answered this question many times. People asked him why Apple didn’t move manufacturing back to the US. He said we simply don’t have enough high skilled labor to do the jobs.

Modern manufacturing needs a ton of process and industrial engineers. We need far more STEM graduates. Not just undergraduate level but also associate degrees offered in community colleges. People with only a high school degree aren’t that useful in modern manufacturing.

Make Recession Great Again.

Biden’s last quarter: +2.4%

Trump: -0.3%.

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We used to be first in class.

Now we are last.

Elect a clown expect a circus.

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Agree with Carlson however we have a far bigger problem no one talks about. The regulatory state, the “4th” branch of government, issues on average over 20 regulations which have force of law for every one piece of legislation passed by Congress. If we’re going to rein in presidential powers we need to keep going and rein in the bureaucracy. No constitutional authority for what they do. They also “at a whim determine winners and losers and slap enormous taxes on companies.” No accountability for these unelected workers. Accountability only in theory and not in practice. Sort of like the never-enforced War Powers Act. The president can tariff the world and bomb the world but just can’t fire people without a million judges getting involved. How did we ever get here?

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