AAPL and Apple

[marcus335]

@manch

I mentioned the history of iPhone SE.

iPhone SE (1st generation) - Wikipedia

The first-generation iPhone SE (also known as iPhone SE 1 or iPhone SE 2016 ; SE is an initialism of Special Edition [8]) is a smartphone that was designed, developed, and marketed by Apple Inc. It is part of the 9th generation of the iPhone alongside the higher-end iPhone 6s and 6s Plus. It was introduced on March 21, 2016, with pre-orders beginning on March 24, 2016, and was officially released on March 31, 2016, alongside the 9.7-inch iPad Pro.[9][10][11] It was re-released on March 24, 2017, with larger storage capacities.[12]

It took Apple 9 years of iPhone iterations to be able to make a cheap version of iPhone. How long would it take to make a cheap version of Vision? That’s why I wrote before it won’t be 2 years. It will be much longer than 2 years.

Also iPhones were long subsidized by cell carriers. We used to get iPhones for free if you sign a 2 year contract. There is no equivalent of that in Vision Pro. I think the adoption of ASP will be much slower compared to iPhones. It’s not a $500 watch or iPad. Cost is a big barrier.

Why on earth are you so obsessed with iPhone SE then and keep saying it’ll take 9 years for AVP to reach mainstream adoption? The chart shows mainstream adoption was clearly well before the iPhone SE. Do I really need to explain this? If you still don’t get it, you never will.

[manch]

@marcus335

Do I really need to explain this? If you still don’t get it, you never will.

Because AVP costs $4000 a piece and thus a major obstacle to wide adoption. So I look at the history of iPhone development to see when Apple was able to make a cheaper version of iPhone. Based on that history a cheap version of AVP will take many years of development.

Should I explain in easier terms still?

[hanera]

Dreaming aloud: If I am young, I would startup three companies: Social networking with spatial computing moments, text2spatial computing and short-forms videos in spatial computing format.

Social networking with spatial computing moments

Moments (social networking)

Could be a surprised killer app/feature. Same example.

Text2spatial computing

@hanera

@hanera

Text2Video app, Sora, released by OpenAI.

If done in spatial computing environment, rocks.

e.g.

Yourself

Short-form video in spatial computing format
Challenging Tiktok, Instagram Reels and short duration YouTube.

[hanera]

Touch ID Recalled even Trump wants his Touch ID iPhone back. AFAIK, he is not a budget conscious consumer.

[manch]

@hanera

For people who don’t need prescription glasses or are wearing contact glasses, do they prefer to talk to an iPhone or talk to a ghost as for Ray Ban meta smart glasses and AI pin for similar functionality?

The AI needs to see what the user is seeing to provide maximum utility. Therefore it makes sense to have a front facing camera on all the time. Your iPhone is in your pocket most of the time, so it’s “blind” most of the time. Makes more sense for smart glasses and AI pins.

[hanera]

I see you prefer to talk to ghosts every second instead of talking to an iPhone when you really need to find out what you’re looking at.

[manch]

From the movie Her. The AI lives in that phone like thing in his shirt pocket. Notice the camera is facing out so the AI is walking together with him and seeing the same thing he’s seeing.

Makes more sense to just embed it in his glasses.

[hanera]

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@manch

From the movie Her. The AI lives in that phone like thing in his shirt pocket. Notice the camera is facing out so the AI is walking together with him and seeing the same thing he’s seeing.

Makes more sense to just embed it in his glasses.

Steal my idea

@hanera

Thinking aloud: For people who don’t need prescription glasses or are wearing contact glasses, do they prefer to talk to an iPhone

which is far better using two f… devices.

These AI Glasses are Crazy!

[hanera]

The Incredible Vision Pro Feature We Have Forgotten About Somehow | Apple Tech News

What? An Apple fanboy forgot that an iPhone 15 Pro or iPhone 15 Pro Max can capture spatial computing video? However,

Nevertheless, you should start capturing spatial computing video if you’ve 15 Pro/Pro Max even if you don’t plan to buy the Vision Pro ATM.

[manch]

Make it cost half as much and maybe then AVP has a chance.

[hanera]

Ballmer Laughs at iPhone

Steve Ballmer’s view of the first iPhone…
$500… is the most expensive phone in the world… doesn’t appeal to business customers.

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Price of a very large display…

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@hanera

Can’t afford it? No need to give sophisticated reason. Just return it after reviewing it, is ok.
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Want to review but Apple doesn’t provide a free computer for review, nice workaround. Just remember to return it within 14 days for a full refund.

cheapskate

[manch]

There is a huge difference between a $500 cell phone, and everybody had a cell phone even in 2007. Versus a $4,000 VR goggle, a device practically nobody has today, and don’t know why they need one.

Not everyone is rich like you.

[manch]

Poor people like us may actually buy Zuck’s goggle to see what the VR hype is about. Can’t afford the AVP so buy one close enough for 1/7 the cost.

[hanera]

Zuck is astroturfing again.

Attitude of a reviewer…

@hanera

Want to review but Apple doesn’t provide a free computer for review, nice workaround. Just remember to return it within 14 days for a full refund.

cheapskate want young, good looking and big.

Apple presentation has already highlighted a few use cases… if those don’t appeal to you… no need to buy and try… already know the price yet buy and try then say expensive? Wtf. Can I have trial marriage, if feel spouse is high maintenance then cancel marriage?

[hanera]

Creator of Oculus on Apple Vision Pro

Re-post the interview of Creator of Oculus, Palmer Luckey. He opined that for true early adopters, price doesn’t matter, would buy at $3500, would buy at $5000…

[hanera]

Get an Apple Watch for her.
Use Find my phone.

[hanera]

I found a 17 year old Apple Vision Pro Patent

Our human future looks promising 😭

[hanera]

@hanera

All the talks about Apple Vision Pro, people have forgotten about the rumor that Apple is working on an Apple Glass (supposedly focussed on AR), instead on focussing on VR. Apple Glass is supposedly to be of the same format as what we are currently wearing as glasses. Wondering whether Apple Glass is like a standalone insight camera or incorporated into the glasses.

I forgot about this rumor too. Now that I remember, I realize reviewers are wishing for Apple glass.

[hanera]

AAPL?

[manch]

Reddit user reported AVP cracked all by itself and Apple is charging him money for repair. And the auto-cracking has happened to multiple people already. Barely 2 weeks in.

https://www.reddit.com/r/VisionPro/comments/1awr2di/comment/krmy8j5/?context=3