Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 Covid-19

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Wow, what happened in early June to cause a huge increase in Covid cases? Oh wait, we already discussed that and the denial was pretty entertaining.

Imagine where we’d be if we had continued on the downtrend.

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Yup, like that’s the only thing that happened in June? A huge swath of the country reopened in May and June. I am sure people who went to casinos were all taking breaks between protests.

Protests likely add to some cases but far from the most significant factor.

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Yawn. Your 2 major examples (Texas and a Florida) had restaurants open a full month before the increase. We already covered that. We also covered the county specific data that shows huge spikes only occurred in counties with protesting.

It’s also weird cases are decreasing again, but we didn’t close restaurants back down. If restaurants really caused the spike, then there’d be no decrease. Yet as protesting decreases so do the number of cases. I’m sure something will cause another wave of protests, so we will get another data point for it.

The graph is a joke in any case. It’s adjusted for population and even so the highs of the rural areas are nowhere near the highs of the urban areas.

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Face coverings are “the most powerful public health tool” the nation has against the coronavirus and might even provide better protection against it than a vaccine, the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention told lawmakers Wednesday.

“We have clear scientific evidence they work, and they are our best defense,” CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield said. "I might even go so far as to say that this face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against Covid than when I take a Covid vaccine.”

@erth

Any more debate? According to CDC, clear scientific evidence they work :slight_smile:

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It shows his lack of confidence in the vaccine(initial ones) being successful effectively over a wide range of the population.

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We already knew that from Fauci’s statements.

I was also thinking about the original debate of covid vs flu fatality rate. The whole debate over fatality rates ignored one key aspect: the flu has a vaccine widely available. It should have a much lower fatality rate. My hypothesis is once we have a covid vaccine the fatality rate will be similar to the flu.

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My hypothesis is that there will never be a safe and effective coronavirus vaccine because we’ve failed with the other 6 coronaviruses which were circulating. The mortality rate will nonetheless drop because that’s what happened with those other 6 - after they killed the most susceptible 0.5-1% of the population - which all of them did when they were first introduced into the population.

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Agreed. Plus we already know that even wild-type immunity doesn’t give you immunity from the other mutations.

Did this get posted yet? Pretty cool:

https://elemental.medium.com/a-supercomputer-analyzed-covid-19-and-an-interesting-new-theory-has-emerged-31cb8eba9d63

I hadn’t seen that. Interesting and very well written and explained.

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If the theory is correct, we should have seen some results by now with the existing drugs that can suppress the bradykinin storm, or even at the very least confirm that bradykinin level is high for covid-19 patients?

Yeah–question is whether people are taking this paper seriously and whether trials have started. You’d think the drug manufacturers would be on top of that! $$ $$ $$

First is cytokine storm, now is bradykinin storm. Next? Hanera storm?

I am in the same camp as @acre,

Boca Raton Elementary teacher Edith Pride said some parents can be seen walking around unclothed while drinking and smoking during remote learning classes.

“We need to make sure parents don’t get on the computer to help their children with joints in their hand and cigarettes in their mouth,” Pride told Fox News. “Sometimes the joints are as big as cigars. You can’t do that!”

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Oh dear!

“We’ve seen the parents in towels, we’ve seen them in underclothes, we’ve seen them in bras,” Pride said. “It’s just inappropriate. The children can see it in the squares.”

After Pride voiced her frustration during a board meeting Wednesday, she said several teachers have reached out to thank her and tell her of similar experiences.

A different teacher told KATV that a father of one of her students was “drinking a beer at 11:45 in the morning” without a shirt on.

“I did have a parent who sat on the couch and we could see an ankle monitor on her leg,” another teacher told the local news outlet.

:woozy_face:

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Mask wearing and social distancing AZ style. Gun show last week in Williams. Been like this all along.
Oh - movie theaters are open too. Our cases peaked back in July, then plunged apart from a brief spike after Labor Day.

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