Mass Exodus From Cali

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I would want bad people to leave, good people to stay.

emphasized textDemocrats Seek To Outlaw Suburban, Single-Family House Zoning, Calling It Racist And Bad For The Environment - The Daily Caller

All the crazy shit blamed on California is happening everywhere

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Racist??? Democrats’ best argument is to accuse people of racism, elitism, … guilt tripping people, … forcing their worldview upon others,… Come on, put up more substantive argument! Now I know why certain bloggers here talk that way, they are democrats!

“People won’t move here because they can’t afford to come in the door,” said Dowell Myers, professor of policy, planning and demography at the University of Southern California. “The jobs are there. The people aren’t there.”

@manch What is the point of creating jobs when nobody come here to take up the jobs and hence housing?

Meanwhile, California’s homeless population has continued to swell,jumping 16.4% in January according to surveys approved by the federal government.

Unless you want them to roam around your neighborhood and take over your home when you’re on long vacation.

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If making homes affordable means making people live in 300 sq feet homes, Bay Area will soon become builders paradise.

The answer to create jobs that pay 400k and automate the ones that only pay 50 with AI.

You come to these kind of conclusions if you believe too much in command and control economy. You cannot control what kind jobs you create in an area or what kind of people can live. Else SF would have gotten rid of homeless people a long ago. I have head in many communist countries you have to take a visa or permit to visit cities or something like that. AI will not replace creativity and motor skills. Artificial Intelligence, like other machines, will only replace work that is repetitive and can be programmed. Can an AI fitted machine do simple things like trimming the weeds in your lawn. Or cutting your hair?

This is not command economy at all. Wage pressure will lead firms to invest in labor saving technology. 100 years ago people were convinced elevators must have human operators. How can you let machines handle so many lives without human intelligence in the loop? Well turns out machines are just doing fine.

Do we really need human cooks in restaurants? At $15 an hour, why not? But if it’s $35 an hour that’s a whole different calculus. I read somewhere American farms are buying machines to automate harvest because they can’t find workers.

The best thing Bay Area can do is to remove obstacles to build, be they regulatory, financial or NIMBYism. Failing that firms have to adapt.

Your are trying to convince yourself how bay area can be an Oasis where only high income earners will live and somehow others will automatically have to leave since there will be no way for them to a earn a living. It does not work that way. You are stretching what AI can do a little bit too far. Even if you make Bay Area another high density city like Singapore or Hongkong with people raising a family in 600 sq feet apartment. I feel sorry for the residents of those city because they have no where else to go. Not so much for America and if free market capitalism survives. The solution to Bay area problem is an alternative city. That city might already be in making somewhere. Think about it. If jobs can be sent to Bangalore, and Hongkong, they can be sent to Fresno and Modesto too.

Have you even been to Hong Kong and Singapore? Having nowhere to go is more an American problem if you live in some middle of nowhere states where the only shopping option is Walmart.

That sounds more like what a statist will say. In a knowledge economy, density is a must have.

America is country made up of dynamic people. They move and the are in search of the best. Raising a family in 600 sq feet apartment is not an american dream. Nor is travelling in a crowded train to commute to work.

You build ghost cities when you mindlessly build in a hope that people will come and live. You need population to live in these cities. California is not growing in population at time when its economy is doing the best. I am not sure how long will cities in California be under pressure for more homes. Look at this example ghost city in China. Never been there but I am assuming the story of ghost cities is true. Do you want Bay area to look like this?

This is not America?

People have a weird idea about America. In places where Americans can literally touch each other, they say it’s not really America and those people are not real Americans. Only in places like Iowa where few Americans live are they the real America.

San Francisco is a tiny city bolted on a sprawling suburb of SFH’s. We don’t need to go all the way to HK density, or even NYC density. Just raise the height limit so we can have more 4-storey midrises will do wonder to our housing crisis.

https://www.goldenbustours.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/SFO.jpg

No, this is not part of the American Dream.

American Dream looks like this.

https://wildwingliving.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/single-family-home.jpg

Yep.
And it’s still out there, all over America. That’s why so many folks are leaving CA.

Won’t happen. Real Americans don’t like to be within rifle shot range of each other, 1 mile. :sunglasses:

Google how many billionaires in NYC are living in condos. They must be having it rough.

2 rooms HDB. Not many around. For really poor folks or elderly singles. There are plenty of 600 sqft condos in BA.

Marlboro man, the only real American.

This guy on the other hand can’t be real American: