Prop 10 may pass: LA Times poll

So, do they need 50% votes to pass Prop 10? I thought it’s a simple majority, Yes vs No. What do blank votes count as? I am assuming ‘No’.

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Blank votes are not counted.

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Blank votes don’t count. We have to convert the 21% undecided homeowners to NO.

Also need to turn out middle aged and senior citizens to vote. Seniors hate rent control since they have seen its evil already.

Seniors ie 60+ have voter turnout of 70% more consistently. It’s the young people who never go over 45%.

If it passes for whatever reason, what are the good cities to buy in other than the following:

Fremont - city voted against rent control
San Jose - rent hikes are allowed till 5%. so the city won’t go crazy with the new power.
All neighborhoods with significant asian population (cupertino, sunnyvale, santa clara, palo alto) - usually against rent control

What about Daly City, Milbrae, San Mateo, Redwood city?

Millbrae will be hard against rent control for many years to come. Cupertino will be too but the big development in the old fashion mall area will likely dilute the Asian population and thus reduce the resistance to rent control.

How about foster city? I think it also has high percentage of Asian population.

From the analysis in this thread, it looks like Prop 10 only benefits existing home owners in the long run. Should I vote yes if I follow the logic? :rofl::rofl::rofl:

Prop 10 hurts all the people. It hurts homeowners and renters.

All homeowners should vote No on Prop 10.

Most renters should vote No on Prop 10 as well.

Dangers of Prop 10:

  1. Make rental vacancy rate close to zero by reducing new rental construction and converting existing rental to owner occupied. This will make evicted renters homeless immediately. Also makes it impossible to hire best talent from the whole world.

  2. Prop 10 is anti immigration. Only millionaire immigrant can come here with a purchased home before arrival. Regular immigrants will have to go to Arizona or Nevada in order to be able to rent a house.

  3. Prop 10 is anti lower income people. When vacancy reaches zero, lower income people can be evicted at the first evictable offense. And lower income people will be the last of the thousands of applicants to be selected for a vacant unit. Over time, our street will be full of sober homeless people.

  4. Prop 10 will drive jobs away to other states, will cause economic disasters in California. This may make California tax revenue plummet and make San Francisco the second Detroit. California property value will plummet and make it cheap to buy with a bad economy, but still no house to rent.

Worst place in South Bay

  1. Mountain View. Mountain View is a new rent control city but it already has the worst rent control. Over time, Mountain View may become more extreme, it can become Berkeley of the South Bay. Rent control policy will help retain its white majority and be hostile to low income minorities economically and housingly.

  2. San Jose. San Jose’s rent increase limit was at risk to be reduced from 5%. It’s inevitable that 5% will be reduced to a lower increase even if Prop 10 failed. San Jose has more low income people and more minororities than Mountain View. San Jose has potential to become Oakland of the South Bay, with a concentration of lower income people and more crime.

  3. Los Gatos. Los Gatos has a mild rent control and there’s no push to make it worse yet. Los Gatos should be put on a watch list, it’s not that bad as of now.

In general, White Rent Control tends to go to the extreme. Minority Rent Control tends to be mild in the beginning but then follow the White Rent Control to become more and more extreme. It seems that white rent control people are leaders in rent control movement.

Is it fair to say that hard core liberals are mostly white, Minority liberals are just followers?

Rent control is inherently racist since it is mainly old white people that benefit. The NAACP is against rent control as defined in Prop 10.

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Rent control reduces the quantity and quality of available housing.
- MIT economist Christopher Palmer

Two reasons to believe No could prevail with such close numbers:

  1. If No is first on the ballot, and people tend to check the first option.
  2. People tend to vote no on everything if they’re not sure how to vote.

That said, rent control is something I think people would think they have an opinion on even if it turns out they don’t know what Prop 10 really does. (I’m finding on the RWC Facebook page, people think that Prop 10 will allow “local control over rent control” meaning they might finally get rent control. I don’t get any sense that they actually know what Costa-Hawkins does.)

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No on Prop 10 is no panacea. Not matter what happens there will more rent control as the numbers of renters increases.

This is the only hope we can hold. 21% of the voters are undecided and most of them don’t know what Prop 10 is.

Most of the undecided voters are homeowners who are not directly involved in rental market.

Again, where are the commercials such as this, where a say Nobel winning economist comes out and says why rent control is bad??? You want someone who would be viewed as intelligent and neutral on the subject telling the masses which way is the exit.

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Voters have lots of emotions. They think economist as dry and unsexy.

You want to make voters cry in tears or mad as a cow, and they will give you their vote.

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You need to convince the undecideds. The folks going on emotion have already decided quite frankly and they will be mostly Yes votes. Your strategy shouldn’t be just focused on the emotions. If I were undecided, I would want someone who is credible like a respected academic to tell me briefly why it is bad. This person would not be perceived as having a political agenda, either way.

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Here…

I want a short commercial essentially starting from about 50 secs in from the start where the mentioning about 93% of all economists, left or right, agree…

Maybe have someone really credible, like Stormy Daniels in a nurse outfit, doing it…:grinning:

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Both Renters and landlords have already made up their mind. Now we have to convince uninformed homeowners.

The leftover undecided voters are homeowners who are neither tenant nor landlord. How to communicate with these people?

That was my point. The undecideds are not dumb, they just need some direction.
Have someone neutral who can reason why rent control is bad. Why is that so hard? Use analogies, come on. Make something fun.

Here, just air this a million times… (sorry, no Stormy Daniels…)

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