Key difference is that there is no private business in China. Everything is under CCP control, only difference is how much. TikTok can easily censor or spy on CCP’s behalf. We can’t look at it as just another private business.
Also the fact that China bans all our news sites and social media sites means we should also ban theirs. Why let them have free rein into our market but not let us into theirs?
We already know from the Twitter Files that our own government partners with private industry to censure us, spy on us and mold our opinions. I knew it years before Musk bought Twitter based on personal experience and inside scoops from Google employees.
The public/private distinction in the US is a total sham where electronic media and increasingly banking are concerned.
We have independent press and independent judiciary here. The fact that people can openly discuss what Twitter does or what Google does is light years ahead of what’s happening in China. Dare criticize the government in China and even powerful businessman like Jack Ma is in excile stripped out of all his businesses.
Versus here if you don’t like what big tech is doing you can sue them or have your people in congress make life hard for them.
Can you do the same in China? Stop making funny arguments.
More than that. Tiktok has an extremely good AI algorithm which USG wants to get a hand on, and has the potential to disrupt not only current social media, also e-commerce and fintech.
Your logic is similar to:
I always lend you stuff whenever you ask. I want to borrow your MBP and you refuse. I am unhappy and swear not to lend you anything in the future. That is to say, when I lend you stuff I have the ignoble thought to assume that you have to lend me stuff back. Is this thought consistent with Buddhism or Christianity’s principle? Is the ignoble thought your attitude too?
It’s just a principle of fairness. Do you ask Apple for discounts because Tim Cook should be a good Christian? Then can I ask Xi to be a good Confucian?
Business is business. You want our market? Then give me yours.
Well let’s use your analogy. China made a lot of promises when it joined WTO in 2000. Like open up its service and finance industries. Didn’t keep those promises. China promised Britain it will let Hong Kong keep its freedom after handover in 1997. Didn’t keep those promises. China kicked Google out in 2010 and it has been 13 years and counting.
So it’s more like you let this neighbor freeride on you for 20 years and they just didn’t keep any of the promises it made. And recently it even join forces with your enemies to stab you at the back.
And you argue we should just be fools, pretend none of these happened and continue let China take advantage of us?
Yes. Treating each other equally is always an assumption. Heck. It’s even explicitly stated in the WTO agreement. You can call it “ignoble” or whatever. But we are not running charity here.
In the past the West gave China a pass. Because they thought China will become a liberal democracy as it got rich. In fact the opposite happened. Now China is aligning itself with our enemies like Russia and Iran. It is fast turning into the new axis of evil. So yes call it ignoble if you want. I don’t know why you expect the west to give unconditionally. It’s just not how geopolitics works.
I don’t use it but this whole Washington business is one big show. No different than the anti-US propaganda the CCP puts out to distract Chinese citizens from their country’s internal problems.
I see you don’t get it. I am not talking about who is wrong or right; not about the WTO; or each nation’s behavior. I am talking about logic of your view.
Org chart of Bytedance, TikTok’s corporate parent. Clearly shows the SG guy is not even the highest level exec in the company. One of 12 direct reports of the real CEO. And then of course there is the CCP that’s the real decision maker.
Most don’t know there is a parallel TikTok that’s only accessible inside China. TikTok itself is banned inside China. Parallel universes.
Applicants will need at least S$10 million ($7.4 million) in a business or S$25 million in an approved fund, the Singapore Economic Development Board said in a statement Thursday. For those establishing family offices, at least S$50 million must be deployed and maintained in four government-designated investment categories.
That compares with a previous requirement of a S$2.5 million investment in a business entity, fund or Singapore-based single family office. The changes take effect from March 15.