Tesla’s trillion dollar valuation is fast approaching

It’s all about charging time. Totally impractical for most people. If EV’s ever take off it will be based on the swappable battery model, not plug-in. “Range anxiety” was never the issue; charging time is.

“It also claims the battery can go from 10% to 80% in just 18 minutes under the right conditions.”

It would be nice to know what the “right” conditions are - not an issue with ICE cars. Still - that’s getting there. If it worked on any public 240 charger I could almost live with that. Almost. Standing around for 18 minutes every 200 miles is still a stretch for my driving habits. The lowest range ICE cars have a range of about 250 miles and most importantly there are gas stations almost anywhere with “charging times” of under 5 minutes. Use a cheap jerry can if you really need to “charge” out in the boonies somewhere.

Paid $75 to fill the tank on my mid-size german sedan this morning. Haven’t been driving much bc of Covid but can’t remember the last time a fill-up was over $55. Pain at the pump plus tax credits are going to push more and more people toward PHEVs and full EVs. If you can charge at home it makes huge financial sense and there are more and more options with AWD, higher ground clearance, etc. for non-California use cases.

This is the limiting factor right now. The transition in the future won’t happen until those metrics go down.

But I don’t think those will be a problem in 10 years. There will be charging stations everywhere you would have gas stations along major or medium corridors (but less in cities away from long-distance routes)

Usable highway range will get to > 4 or 5 hours of highway driving at 75 mph.

Recharge times will be coming down with next generation batteries. I think you will be able to recharge most of the way in 10 minutes. Since this is mainly an issue for long distance trips, I think most of the benefit will be had when we get to 10 minutes.

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I posted because Koreans are biggest challenge to Tesla.
Koreans supplying batteries to GM and Ford.
Koreans supplying chips and display screens to Tesla.
Koreans are vertically integrated. they own steel mills. so better control on prices across supply chain.
Tesla is stuck between Berlin and Shanghai. One will be underproducing and another will be overproducing.

The problem is always that one needs a car that satisfies 100% of personal transportation needs or one has to have multiple vehicles. I doubt ICE cars will go away before 2050 if they ever do.

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The wealth that Korean are creating from US market they will fund investments in alternative places and accelerate alternative supply chains.
This force transition from ICE engines to Batteries are contributing to destroying dollar.

With cellular and solar panels, you could probably line highways with charging stations. Unless people have a reason to steal them, why pay anyone to man a pump??? Certainly in sunny desert climates. Just have a green light on when the station is ready to charge your car, and you pull off the highway to one of these stations.

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No one mans pumps at gas stations anymore.

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China tightening the screws on Musk.

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This thing is well understood in Berlin and Shanghai that Elon is the biggest idiot . The only thing saving Shanghai plant is Tesla exports for now.

Incorrect

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What I mean is that you don’t have to have a human present - you’re not worried about someone doing stupid stuff with gasoline.

Gas stations sell convenience items, on which they make a lot more than the gas, so you still need a human present.
And what sort of stupid things do people do when filling up their car? Isn’t it just as likely they’ll electrocute themselves fueling up their EV?

I think @Teri mean a helper to pump petrol for you.