Tesla’s trillion dollar valuation is fast approaching

I saw those. People in denial are trying to defend FSD. It’s not funny it’s sad. Fanboys came up with crazy reasons to tell themselves FSD did great.

I still think FSD is a dead end. This is not the way to get to L4. We have multiple companies with fleets of L4 cars driving everyday in multiple cities. They didn’t get there by doing this drip drop boil the ocean approach.

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One of the crazy logical twists bulls do to justify FSD. You need to manually brake it for it to stop at a stop sign.

That’s for the now world’s most famous stop sign. What about all the other stop signs we didn’t know about? And you call this “full self driving”?

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Who’s crazier Musky or his fans?

Musk knows perfectly what he’s doing. You don’t get to be the world’s richest person by being dumb. Not sure about his fans though.

This is the perfect way of developing self driving tech without actually developing self driving tech. Will always be beta to avoid legal liability. It works great some time for some people but never all the time. Works for 59 minutes out of an hour but may kill you at the 60th. Problem is you don’t know which minute out of that hour it’s gonna strike.

The promise is always dangling in front of the fans though. It’s always gonna be ready this year, for the last 5 years. I bet it will be “ready this year” for the next 10 as well.

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I’m paying 25% more for my Tesla compared to my ICE car.
Both cost @$50000 when purchased. ICE in 2018, Tesla 2019.

The reasons I’m paying more for Tesla IMO(in my opinion) is.

  • Tesla is driven @2x more than ICE.
  • Tesla 1 year newer.
  • Tesla was @$2000 more than ICE.

Now next step for you should be to find a new and better auto insurance agent.

I think it’s :crazy_face: ppl who love Toyota and have no faith in Tesla Or Musk but post in Tesla thread all time time :wink: :wine_glass:

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This has already been explained to you before. Anyways, I guess this will also happen to me in 30 years.

You didn’t answer my question. How much is your insurance. . Besides a $50,000 Tesla is probably a 3… worth only $25k today.

Biggest cost of all cars is depreciation.
The seller keeps dropping his price. My guess is he’s not happy with his car.

I did say earlier that my Tesla insurance is 25% higher than my ICE and hence I refuted your point that Tesla insurance is 300% of a similarly priced ICE vehicle of similar age.

Rant continues.

Btw, Last I checked it’s a free country and you can buy the car you want.

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The prototype experienced “excessive pedal travel and inconsistent stop” and “excessive pitch during friction braking,” as well as problems with braking during turning and power braking instability.

Other problems included sealing the vehicle to keep out noise and weather, which has apparently proved challenging. According to the leaked documents, “there are a number of areas that we do not have a clear path to sealing.”

“My first reaction is I am astounded. These are classic mechanical automotive engineering challenges that you have in pretty much any vehicle. I’m blown away that they would be struggling so much with the basics.”

Sell!

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That expert may be getting death threats soon.

One expert who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid backlash from Tesla superfans told Wired,

Tesla deliveries beat estimate. EV’s are extremely popular and Tesla is about the only brand that produces at scale in America. Benefitted bigly under Biden’s IRA despite Musk’s non-stop bitching.

The Cybertruck is the ugliest truck ever built. The freakish stepchild of a Pontiac Aztek and a DeLorean.

winning automotive journalist Dan Neil, in naming it one of the 50 worst cars of all time, said the Aztek "violate(d) one of the principal rules of car design: we like cars that look like us. With its multiple eyes and supernumerary nostrils, the Aztek looks deformed and scary, something that dogs bark at and cathedrals employ to ring bells

…and with home charging it takes 21 hrs to fully charge.

No need to understand at all. You only need to know EM is an outstanding engineer and a highly competent leader who know how to scale an invention (by others) into great heights.

Because of the constant bombarding by social media, I begin to have a rough idea of the business approach of TSLA, is essentially an adaptation of Apple way to making cars and riding mega trends of solar/ robotics.

Just blindly buy will work e.g.

My oh my… :money_mouth_face:

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No need to understand when the stock goes up. Need some understanding to hold when stock goes down.

I think I now know a bit about Tesla the business, but still have zero understanding about Tesla the stock.

Tesla is not like Apple at all. Apple is far more thoughtful and careful about their product engineering. With Tesla we see steering wheels fell off and door panels had gaps. You will never find that kind of shoddy work in Apple products. But people don’t care because a) they want EV, b) Tesla is the only manufacturer that make them at scale in America (but not Europe and China), c) therefore their price is lower than other EV’s here, and d) the 7.5K subsidy further lowers the price to even below ICE cars.

Of course all these analyses are not needed when stocks go up.

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Rivian up 17% today.

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Is why I said business approach :slight_smile: Since you insist… exclude product engineering :slight_smile: EM has adopted the software engineering practice of releasing alpha version :grinning: Millennials and Gen-Z seem to be ok with this approach. Remember, these guys care less about their own privacy and willing to accept half-baked products in the name of saving the planet and keeping the world safe.