AAPL and Apple

Joseph gave a fact-based reasoning :+1:

Ban is not targeted vs iPhone, all foreign brand devices, have been talking for years.
Sale to government officials is 500k out of 45 million of sale to Chinese consumers… 1.1% :man_shrugging:
So far, feel like a FUD.

Ofc they do. Very subtle that you are not aware.

Huawei tried that once (may be twice, can’t recall), didn’t work. Chinese still buy iPhones.

Central ministries and agencies have restricted the use of foreign-brand products in official business since around 2020.

The company has restricted the use of iPhones as a “recommendation” for the past three years, and the majority of employees do not use them for work, according to the employee, although many have iPhones for personal use.

A central government official said, "Many of my colleagues now have two phones: a Huawei for work and an iPhone for personal use. "

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According to Joseph, FCF yield (hence P/FCF) for AAPL is higher (lower) than GOOG. Is what I got too. Is why I think Kris and some influencers don’t know how to do fundamental analysis.

Have not included potential of Vision Pro.
Apple Pay is growing very fast.


I don’t trust a person who can’t get details correct.
Which company has ticker APPL?
Only two companies in the stock market? Only two choices? What is Kris smoking?


Rubbing in. Also PYPL. All tumble badly since his pumping.


Since GOOG IPO in 2004, I have heard and repeated often that GOOG is a better investment than AAPL… in 2004, market cap of GOOG is higher than AAPL… today, market cap of AAPL is ~$2.81T and GOOG $1.72T… many people still think GOOG is a better investment??? May be finally true? For the next 1-2 years?


Tag: AAPL vs GOOG
Sep 7, 2023

https://twitter.com/KrisPatel99/status/1699871717726793819
Kris arbitrarily started the comparison of operating income from 2013 (GOOG IPO in 2004!). He also conveniently ignore the fact that Gross Profit of AAPL and GOOG are pretty close. It means operating expenses of GOOG is high… so instead of saying GOOG is currently very badly managed, he twisted to mean GOOG is catching up with AAPL’s operational efficiency… let’s whether GOOG is able to improve efficiency going forward.

Wondering Aloud:

Why is Kris so keen on comparing AAPL vs GOOG so publicly?

Face Ripper said is a buying opportunity for stocks especially AAPL.

From a guy who actually knows something about China.

HW = Huawei.

Sitting on top of the mountain, has to bear with jealousy from all directions.

Increasingly, feel like a Huawei campaign.

Yet another assault by a green eye…

iPhone innovation.

As Smartphone Industry Sputters, the iPhone Expands Its Dominance

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Yet another green eye.

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iOS vs Android Market Share by Country: Top 30 Countries Using iPhones.

…iOS, on the other hand, holds a global market share of 28.52%, as of August 2023. The iOS mobile operating system is highly popular in the Oceania region, with a 55.66% market share. This is followed by the North America with a market share of 54.32%. .

Plenty of room to expand market share. Apple doesn’t need current iPhone users to replace their iPhone often… in fact, many replace every 4-6 years… Apple wants to convert Android users gradually over. Android users don’t need to replace their Android phone with a brand new iPhone immediately, can start by buying refurbished/ 2nd hand iPhone.


Plenty of room to gain market share.

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I won’t be bother to classify. IMHO, if you have new money to deploy…
a. Just want to be beat S&P for several years, buy AAPL.
b. Want to multiply many folds, look at other growth stocks, plenty of potentials. Just remember, high rewards come with high risks.

Not financial advice, just thinking aloud.

$2,000 iPhone? That’s more than a 15” MacBook Air.


https://twitter.com/StockMKTNewz/status/1701347116956692977


https://twitter.com/amitisinvesting/status/1701402277305860536

Lackluster unless there is a LLM for Siri announcement.

Gene Munster’s view…
https://twitter.com/munster_gene/status/1701345142194483496


Apple to Sell Made-in-India iPhones on Launch Day for First Time

Apple Event Sep 12 2023.

Announcements as leaked :man_shrugging:
Like the double tap :+1: of Apple Watch.
Like the 2nd generation :+1: UWB of Apple Watches and iPhone 15s.
Like can capture spatial :+1: photos and videos.
Like periscope zoom :+1: camera, however, I am not a photographer/ videographer.

No LLM or tons of mention of AI. Just realize Elon Musk copies Apple’s idea of using neural engine which TSLA cultists lauded as brilliant… what can I say.
AAPL traded inlined with the market…


… as opposed to what Apple haters claimed.


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4-year replacement cycle is already steady state. Only need purchases from Android users/ 2nd hand iPhone users to push up unit sales.

Apple’s new revenue driver:

Blame EU.
Anyhoo, you don’t have USB-C cables? I have tons of them.
Also have tons of power chargers that connect with USB-C.
I don’t need any conversion cable.

Love Joseph Carlson’s fact-based analysis…




Ability to capture spatial photos and videos is a big deal or not?

Was a big deal when I was dating till my children are adolescents. Now, hardly take any photos or videos.

Optimal Replacement Duration

iPhone 15 $799
Trade in
iPhone 14 $430, per year cost = $369
iPhone 13 $370, per year cost = $214.50
iPhone 12 $250, per year cost = $183
iPhone 11 $200, per year cost = $149.75
iPhone X $120, per year cost = $135.80

Best is to replace after 4 years :grinning:

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