Coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 Covid-19

Those people are already at higher risk for everything from heart disease to cancer. The flu is a much bigger risk for them than healthy people too.

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Bill Gates explains how he would fight coronavirus if he was in charge: ā€˜Don’t mislead people’

Gates for POTUS :slight_smile:

The issue is even if they have one second to live, they don’t want to die one second earlier.

…and how many other lives you might need to destroy in the process of buying that extra second.

Is not their problems.

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I’d take Bernie over Gates. Gates is very Big Brother.

Coronavirus is already in decline. More beds are available in Florida and California than they were just a week or so ago. What is Bill Gates fighting after all, other than the decline in his reputation?

@Elt1 How are the crowds in Tahoe? Feels like everyone is headed there for the summer. Is it ā€œbusyā€, or can you go to the lake without feeling like there’s a crowd?

We go by boat. Only crowds are at the beach. But even there social distancing is good. Lack of parking limits crowds.
Definitely less crowded than last year. Restaurants are only open for outdoor seating.
Hiking trails are crowded on the weekends. Pretty empty midweek. Traffic on 50 is lighter than last summer.

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Weekends are plenty crowded here on the Mogollon Rim. Of course it’s 110 two hours away in Phoenix. Restaurants are doing a brisk business with no masks even for the servers at many and only a tiny few limiting eat-ins to outdoor seating. For some out-of-towners it’s like escaping from behind the Iron Curtain.

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My friend who has lived there for 14 years, works renting boats, other water equipment says this is the busiest it’s ever been…

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Probably was at that Georgia camp that got shut down.

That whole story was suspicious. A camp here on the Mogollon Rim had over 500 scouts over several weeks coming from 5 different states and there was no problem with CV. I wonder how many of those Georgia kids were positive before they got there.

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I’d bet the camp setup makes a difference. If the scouts are in their own tents, and singing around a campfire, it’s going to be different from everyone in a building and singing. Open air makes a big difference.

That said, you may be on to something…

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/07/coronavirus-vaccine-dr-fauci-says-chances-of-it-being-highly-effective-is-not-great.html

In other words, we might as well just get on with our lives. At least that’s the take if you read both articles.

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No need to read. Historically coronavirus have not disappeared. It just become very contagious. Why would this novel one be different. Can’t he say something we don’t know.

I feel people in my neighborhoods are already getting on with life. In air-con rooms, just wear a mask and keep social distance. Done. I saw many groups of youngsters (kids to early 30s) didn’t wear masks at all while playing and jogging - virus can’t survive when temp is >78 deg F, since outdoor temp is 80-90, no issue. Many home bbq (not in an air-con restaurants) - didn’t wear mask.

There is no evidence of this though if you observe infections globally.

Haven’t read the articles, but the above bolded will be a severely curtailed life for many many people.

In the US the prediction of the number of dead is as high as 300K by the end of the year, and that too with restrictions/SIPs.

Ofc there is evidence - reported very early by Stanford doctors. You can’t see from the crude data reported. Those infected guys got their infection in air-con rooms.

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https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/faq.html

It is not yet known whether weather and temperature affect the spread of COVID-19. Some other viruses, like those that cause the common cold and flu, spread more during cold weather months but that does not mean it is impossible to become sick with these viruses during other months. There is much more to learn about the transmissibility, severity, and other features associated with COVID-19 and investigations are ongoing.

We’ll obviously have to wait a few months to get the data. But for now, many researchers have their doubts that the COVID-19 pandemic will enter a needed summertime lull. Among them are some experts on infectious disease transmission and climate modeling, who ran a series of sophisticated computer simulations of how the virus will likely spread over the coming months [1]. This research team found that humans’ current lack of immunity to SARS-CoV-2—not the weather—will likely be a primary factor driving the continued, rapid spread of the novel coronavirus this summer and into the fall.