I agree she isn’t the worst. But she can actually effect bad action. AOC can only bray like a jackass.
As far as millennial issues. They haven’t a clue how to solve them. In fact they have only made them worse.
“The things that you guys think are PC non issues: racial justice, climate change and income inequality etc, are taken far more seriously by the younger generations.”
Solar and EV won’t solve climate change
The news media blowing up and over exposing police brutality won’t solve racism just makes racial hatred worse. And income inequality is about raising all ships not confiscation from producing taxpayers.
I have the ultimate confidence that the AOC progressives will totally botch things when they have the ball. Just like liberals have destroyed the quality of life in Democratic controlled cities like Detroit Baltimore Chicago New Orleans Cleveland St Louis… go visit.
We have a classic case in South Lake Tahoe. Federal money will be spent to buy 90 units for the homeless. Basically kicking out 90 working taxpayers and replacing them with drugged out bums. Pretty much the liberal guilt play book nationally. Guilt is a shitty governance plan.
Look what welfare did to the black community and their cities.
I was discussing climate stuff with someone. I don’t think people realize how many rivers and lakes used to be completely unusable due to pollution. We are way ahead of where things were a few decades ago.
US CO2 emissions per capita peaked in the early 70s. Total CO2 emissions peaked in 2007 (they were very flat from 2000-2007). On the current trend, the total will be below 1970 within 10 years. It’s why they’ve had to continually rebrand it from global warming to climate change to climate risk. Now it’s not even about climate but the claim it drives social injustice and inequality.
The hysteria over global warming is really about anti capitalism and anti Americanism. Soviet Russia was way worse. A sickness from the 70s linked with liberal guilt.
Yet the United States probably has reduced outr carbon output more then anyone. As far as sea level rise… it hasn’t happened. Polar bears? There are more now than 30 years ago.
From the lies of Silent Spring to The Population Bomb to Al Gore environmentalists have consistently lied and exaggerated … they have no credibility. As a far as solar wind and EV … it all comes down to batteries. They have to prove they batteries won’t be the next environmental disaster. I personally think environmentalists are the biggest disaster of all. The anti nuke movement is the great cause of CO2 buildup.
France is 80% nuclear… no problem and no CO2
In the long run, the ability to recycle batteries into new ones using solar powered recycling plants is the end-game. I think though, recycling EV batteries will be easy to manage since auto dealerships will deal with most replacements. It’s not like you have to send a garbage truck around to every house to collect them and hope they’re not being tossed into people’s garbage.
Another huge environmental problem - the low density of solar and wind. Vast tracts of land need to be removed from the ecosystem and covered with windmills and solar panels.
If we’re serious about this it will be the greatest environmental disaster in American history.
You’re kidding me. I can run my household of 5 including with an EV as our main source of transportation with four panels on my roof. Zero additional space. PG&E won’t let me put more panels on (could fit about 20) because they don’t want to pay me for all of the extra electricity I would produce.
So multiply those 4 panels by all the people and then add in industrial usage. Also account for less sunny locations. See the problem?
The reason PG&E doesn’t want to have to pay you for the additional electricity is that they can’t use it or sell it. The grid isn’t designed for this. Same reason my old town of La Honda couldn’t sell them on using it’s reservoirs as gravity batteries. The ability to produce, when production is diffuse, does not translate into the ability to distribute that production where and when needed.
I didn’t read up on anything EV. EV batteries can be recycled? refurnished? Do you need to disassembly the parts or just change the electrodes? Easier to just read what you guys said than read a tons of articles and papers
According to Wiki the world gets 3% of it’s electricity from solar. That’s based on consumption, not the misleading production numbers. Take a look at these pictures to get an idea of how much land we’re covering to get to that 3%. Those Dems had better exempt solar projects from the Endangered Species Act - and just about every other environmental regulation.
Industrial usage may be easier if people are only working while the sun is out. Either way, covering the top of a warehouse is much easier than covering a house–flat and no one cares what it looks like. And I’m seeing a lot of covered parking areas too which is great --better for your paint job and you don’t get into a burning hot car.
The question of what to do in areas without a lot of sun is of course a good one, but if we could at least get the areas that do have sun 95% of the time, it would go a long way. Especially when people want to run A/C in the summer–which is generally it’s when its sunny out and during the day. I remember tjh saying it was a win for him because he didn’t have to pay for the electricity his wife used to run the A/C and didn’t have to fight with her over it.
My parents are tier 4 (highest tier) of electricity use in New Mexico. Ton of sun, no solar panels. I feel like there’s still a lot that can be done, and that the market hasn’t been maxed out yet. PG&E simply is objecting because it hurts their business. PG&E has paid ahead for the resources and equipment it needs to generate electricity. They have no incentive for you to give it to them because they already invested in other equipment. Reminds me of when MIT installed a Co-gen plant and the got sued by their utility company claiming they’d already paid for the equipment to provide MIT electricity years into the future and wanted to recoup those costs.
To get enough electricity to run a house you need a 5kw system … that is a lot more than 4 300 watt panels. That is 18 panels that are 16sf each… about 300sf
I am assuming using 10000kw per year
PGE charges about $.30/kWh averaging different tiers. The system will generate only up to 80% of your needs.
So about $200/m potential savings for a large home with AC 5kW or 5 kilowatts is 5,000 watts of DC direct current power. This could produce an estimated 350 to 850 kilowatt hours (kWh ) of alternating current (AC) power per month, assuming at least 5 sun hours per day with the solar array facing South.
Not sure how DHO can run anything on 4 panels. On my farm I was planning on a 10 kw system. 600sf plus battery and generator back up. About $50k to get off the grid.
PG&E’s cost - and that of all the other utilities - is in the construction and maintenance of the grid. People who use it as their battery but don’t buy electricity are socializing the cost of their solar system.
My neighbor has a south facing roof and solar. I have east and west facing roof surfaces with trees on those sides so rooftop solar wouldn’t work. But I do as well as the neighbor. In the summer, when the sun is high in the sky, it hits the rooftop at an oblique angle dappled by the trees which minimizes solar absorption. In the winter, when it’s low in the sky, it comes through my south facing cathedral windows up to 7 hours a day minimizing my heating costs. By 8:30 in the morning the heat no longer goes on. It doesn’t start going on until after 11pm at night. And that’s with nighttime temps in the 20’ and daytime temps in the 40’s and 50’s.
I wondered about DHO’s 4 panels as well. My well pump in the desert is solar - practical only because I bought a 5000 gallon storage tank. It uses one panel. One REALLY BIG ASS panel.
A perfectly legitimate lawsuit. They entered into a contract to have someone provide them with a service. The other party spent boatloads of capital only to have them cancel the request.
And, as always, generation is only a small part of the equation. Utilities store and distribute power to meet varying demand. That’s where the real cost is.
Um, 1 panel is about 265 watts which means 2.4A. That means your entire house needs to run on less than 10 amps if 4 panels covers it. A refrigerator is 6-7A, so you can run a fridge and very little else off of 4 panels. If you try to use anything else while the fridge is on, then you’re going to have problems.
My contractor buddy just put a 10kw system himself last year. Cost $15k. Labor probably worth $5k.
Batteries cost $10k… need two. Generator another $10k.
Panels are 310 watts now. Has 30 panels on his roof. He told me he only using discretionary appliances during the day. PGE rapes him at night. With AC and a big house near Placerville it still costs $1500/year for PGE. The real problem is PGE not solar.
My 2300sf house in Tahoe only costs $1200/year with no solar and no AC because we have Liberty Power from Nevada.
