Gun Control


#741

Bots don’t think.


#742

Can you imagine a teacher acting like these stupid police officers “thinking” they saw guns in the hands of unsuspected visitors to any school before shooting them?

“Let’s hit him a couple of times with that before we uh–” the officer says, though it appears the suggestion was heeded.
“What’d he have on him?” someone asks.
"Something in his hands, it looked like a gun from our perspective," one officer says.
As several officers approach, the man is seen lying face down with an iPhone near his head. He’s handcuffed and the officers discuss performing CPR.
The officers who fired are taken to the street, where someone says “Hey mute” and the audio cuts out. The video continues without sound for about two minutes as the officers talk.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/police-release-videos-of-fatal-shooting-of-unarmed-black-man/ar-BBKxUS4?ocid=spartanntp


#743

You think banning guns is thinking outside the box? I’d argue that’s the most basic, in the box, and knee jerk reaction. Thinking outside the box would be digging to get the actual root cause and addressing it.

I guess no one cares about a 70% increase in teen suicide rate. It seems people don’t care about any death except when it’s by a gun. It doesn’t matter how far down the list of causes guns are. Addressing gun deaths gets more attention than all the other causes combined.

Statistically, 385 teens have died of texting while driving since the school shooting. No one cares about it.


#744

Keep thinking inside the box. That’s what those controlling the narrative want. Granted, they don’t even want you to know who they are.


#745

And since some people fell for the fake narrative at the start of this story.


#746

Wow! Nice pictures! So clear, you can see everything.

If I don’t see a ghost there is because I am so stupid. But smart people would say that flashing is of a phone.

Oh, wait! I am a smart person or a stupid one?

Let’s check that clear as the day goes on video. What? You can’t see shit, do you?


#747

Facts:

  1. Suspect ran when confronted by police
  2. Suspect ignored verbal commands from police
  3. Suspect raised arm at police in the dark

I suppose some people would prefer the police wait until the suspect starts shooting, before they shoot. If you don’t want to be shot by police, don’t try to run away and obey the verbal commands. It’s not rocket science.


#748

If people knew English they wouldn’t be that stupid.

“Show me your hands — gun!” one officer yells, according to the body camera footage released Wednesday. It is dark outside and a flashlight from one body camera briefly shows the backyard,

but the man is not visible.

“Gun, gun, gun,” one of the officers yells before they begin shooting.


#749

You think a body cam’s field of vision is the same as a person? The body cam points straight ahead from the body. A person can turn their head. I should stick to ignoring you.


#750

:smile::smile::smile:


#751

Allow me to do the intuitive leap…


#752

No, I mean instead of simply always relying on past stats to “prove your point” and project the future (despite results happening that are unwanted) I would like alternative approaches to problems to be tried, that’s all. If it doesn’t work, bring the old laws/rules back. How can anyone remotely objective be opposed to that?


#753

You want to try things that are statistically proven to be ineffective just so we can confirm they won’t work?


#754

So, when did you become a fortune teller?


#755

It’s already statistically proven. I don’t need to be a fortune teller. I just need to pay attention to results in the real world.


#756

That is funny… how many people died again in massacres this year alone??

Uh, no statistics needed…


#757

Agreed.


#758

I have shared above statistics 17 days ago


#759

Why is gun violence so high in the US as compared to other developed countries?

In my view the right statistics to debate are the following:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2017/10/06/555861898/gun-violence-how-the-u-s-compares-to-other-countries

Take countries with the top indicators of socioeconomic success — income per person and average education level, for instance. The United States ranks ninth in the world among them, bested only by the likes of Luxembourg, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, Iceland, Andorra, Canada and Finland.

Those countries all also enjoy low rates of gun violence, but the U.S. has the 31st highest rate in the world: 3.85 deaths due to gun violence per 100,000 people in 2016. That was eight times higher than the rate in Canada, which had .48 deaths per 100,000 people — and 27 times higher than the one in Denmark, which had .14 deaths per 100,000.

The numbers comes from a massive database maintained by the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, which tracks lives lost in every country, in every year, by every possible cause of death. The figures for 2016 were released just last month. As in previous years, the data paint a fairly rosy picture for much of the world, with deaths due to gun violence rare even in many countries that are extremely poor — such as Bangladesh and Laos, which saw .16 deaths and .13 deaths respectively per 100,000 people.

Prosperous Asian countries such as Singapore and Japan boast the absolute lowest rates, though the United Kingdom and Germany are in almost as good shape.

It is a little surprising that a country like ours should have this level of gun violence," says Ali Mokdad, a professor of global health and epidemiology at the IHME. “If you compare us to other well-off countries, we really stand out.”


#760

How much of a gang and drug problem do those other countries have? Half of the gun violence is gangs. The US also has very high rates in specific cities while most of the country has very low rates. Our large cities are very different demographics than those countries.