Hmm, What Is Apple Doing?


I would have thought your Nvidia or that new wireless charging company Energous would be your picks…

(again, not in the game to know much about what to buy…)


Tesla and Bitcoin are for gambling not investing


WATT is just for watch, not for investment.

NVDA, TSLA, AAPL, AMZN, GOOGL are good for long term investments until economy hits recession.


If not for the corporate culture set up by Elon Musk, most probably is a done deal.


Usage. My hardly used iPhone SE is working fine.


I beg to differ… bitcoin is for gambling. Tesla is legit. Not in the same league!

However, you can say nvda is gambling because their rise is largely due to bitcoin… :rofl:


Agreed :rofl: You will be missing the boat again here :rofl::rofl:


Already missed the boat. Not missing out!!! But now you just gave me an idea… I will buy nvda instead after bitcoin crashed… :rofl:


Cut n paste from an old post dated Sep 21 in this thread. You don’t think iPhone X, AirPods and Apple Watch together with services can achieve higher revenue?


Annualized gain
IPO to now: 17.05% p.a. for 37 years, still better than S&P of 7-11% :grin:
Return of SJ to now: 33.43% p.a. for 20 years
Dec 31, 2007 to now: 22.01% p.a. for 10 years
Dec 31, 2008 to now: 34.58% p.a. for 9 years
Dec 31, 2012 to now: 19.75% p.a. for 5 years
Dec 31, 2016 to now: 48.05% p.a. for 12 months :star_struck:

AAPL would hit $1T market cap by end of 2018 at the historical appreciation of 17%.


I don’t think the X is starting a new S curve. It’s still an iPhone. Some people say X is more fun to use. To me that sounds like saying BMW is more fun to drive than Honda. But is it like the jump from riding a horse carriage to a car? No.

Wearables is a new S curve. But their dollar volume is small compared to iPhone. I don’t think they will ever catch up iPhones volume though.

Apple is a great business. It’s not doomed. I just don’t expect its stock price to double from this level. If it does that would be awesome. That means to me Amazon and Facebook would triple or even quadruple.


Yes, will do just that in a couple years time for sure… :rofl:


Market Cap
AAPL…$860.88B >> $1.72T (1 double)
AMZN…$563.53B >> $2.35T (Quadruple)
FB… $512.76B >> $2.05T (Quadruple)

Over how many years?
I am willing to bet 1 dinner at a fine dining restaurant that it ain’t going to happen for the next 5 years.

Above question is asking combined revenue not individual product revenue.


I don’t expect Apple to double ever again. It might but probability is low. So not in 5 years I am with you on that.

But I expect both Amazon and Facebook to be bigger than Apple in the next 5 years.

We will see how it does with the much hyped “super cycle” next month. Expectation is very high.


The combined Apple-Tsla will reach 4 trillion market cap in 5 years.


There aren’t enough cars or phones needed. In fact if Musk is as prophetic as he says, cars will soon disappear putting him out of business with self driving cars making car ownership obsolete.


Yes but Apple-Tsla will drive the next tech revolution of colonizing the moon and mars.


Smart speakers is a new category at the bottom of S curve now. Amazon is front runner and google second. Apple fumbled badly with the HomePod delay. Amazon seems to be running away with it.


Google and to a lesser extent Amazon sucks up so much users personal data that I go with Apple wherever possible.


If Facebook teaches anything it’s that vast majority of users don’t care about privacy. Some millennials even share their credit purchase histories with strangers. That boggles my mind. I am officially too old. :older_man: