How the Coronavirus will affect Bay Area Housing Market

Hmmm, this is a joke of 2021 ! Having primary 3500+ sqft mansion at Austin, you will never move to CU or SG !

If you really see appreciation and cash flow, you should sell both CU and SG and take 1031 exchange. Even after 15 year from now, you and I will be in this blog and you will be living at Austin and rest will be rental.

There are plenty of places you can see in bay area where appreciation is exponential and where people missed buying. See here (redfin statistics),

whopping 52% YOY appreciation.

Now, any home less than $750 gets 20+ offers and goes +100k above list price.
New home builders are booked more than 300 waiting list and they are not taking any more WL.

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I like SoCal though. Silicone Valley, even warmer weather and better Chinese food. @sheriff made the best move.

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Like San Diego. But all of SoCal has become crowded. I would rather just vacation in Cabo or Puerto Vallarta. Californian ocean water is too cold.

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Huh? Bay Area is nowhere near Cosmopolitan than Singapore. You can eat nice food of any ethnic groups (not just Asians), night joints, world class shopping centers (NY standard+, SFBA is :-1:), plenty of parks (yes, walking and jogging types), …). Singapore can travel to many beautiful places (beaches, ski resorts, mountain sceneries, men friendly places, historical sites, .) within few hours of flight. SFBA is :-1: for most things except weather.

1700-2100 sqft single story SFH is good enough a couple :wink:

Huh? Invest in RE for one year only? C’mon. Use annualized return over 7+ years. Do you know at one time, house prices in Singapore double per year for a few years?

You call Elon and Larry poor? How much do you have?

I gave you a broad statistics and you came back with a sample of two? SMH…

Send pictures from Austin strip clubs. Way more convincing that statistics

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Bloomberg article:

Goodbye, New York, California and Illinois. Hello … Where?

Archive link: https://archive.is/vo0cm

The adjusted gross income of California taxpayers who didn’t migrate averaged $84,641, and migrants to all of the top-10 states made less than that.

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The people leaving are still well above median income for the state. There’s a reason California population exploded since 1970 but the number of income tax payers hasn’t increased. Some people will argue that’s sustainable, and the state can keep increasing rates on the richest.

The article compares the avg income of Leavers vs the whole state. You are comparing the avg of one vs the median of another. Not the same thing.

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My statement is still correct. The people leaving are above the median. The math of losing people above the median income threshold is bad. You said it’s the relatively poor who are leaving. They are actually above median income.

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If you want to use average as a measure, use it for both samples. If you like median, use median for both.

It’s statistical malpractice to mix the two, and dishonest just so to make a political point.

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Let’s say we have billionaires like Elon Musk who left California in the samples. His presence would drive up the average much more in a smaller sample, the Leavers. So if you compare the medians you would see the median of people who left is lower than the average, to a larger extent than the sample of Californians as a whole.

Simple concept, no?

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Avg above median, huge :scream: income divide in California. Who are the ones pulling up the average? Billionaires? Millionaires?

@manch
What is median vs median comparison? I fully expect median of state is lower than the group that left.

He is comparing average of one sample against the median of another, and then made up some political argument.

I get it. Everything is always bullish or bay area housing prices. They only go up and up and up. Losers leave and they replaced by winners.

The number of people who actually pay income tax is a political point and not a fact. Got it. I guess the top 1% paying 50% of the income taxes isn’t a fact either.

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I haven’t seen the Bay Area market this hot ever. Even San Francisco has become red hot !

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I think it is nationwide. Low inventory low interest rates. It is the only thing you can spend money on. No vacations no restaurants concerts sports. Plus the government is giving out trillions of free money. Meanwhile everyone on this supposed RE forum is literally dumping money in the stock market.

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New to SV? During white hot, house sold before open house and after 1 open house (wise owners want highest price). 50 bids :slight_smile: even for crappy house in crappy location. Is that hot yet?

What I hear from my Realtor friends is they BARE …is super hot now

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Our neighbor listed as 2.3M and pending as 2.6x now. Basically this house is smaller than mine and someone paid 300k more from list price. Considering mine this one is too high price.

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