How Trump has handled the pandemic

For 80% of victims it is just the flu. I have two friends than have had it. We need to decide if the cure is worst than virus. In 8 weeks our economy will be devastated. If the death and infection rate has gotten beyond control at that point it might be better to relax the quarantine and let people go back to work or there may be no economy left. I think China is at that point now. They are telling people to go back to work regardless whether the quarantine worked.

Wear masks and spread ppl out more and ppl can go back to work. Hong Hong border customs deals with minions of mainland everyday and who knows how many are infected and they didn’t get infected much

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Hospitals have been screaming for weeks they lack masks, gowns and ventilators. Federal government could have used the wartime power to order these be made. No action yet. Even tiny Taiwan is making more masks than us.

You didn’t listen to today’s press conference. They ordered more mask production.

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Mills hospital in Burlingame has no patients. They cancelled all their routine procedures and are waiting
for patients. We need some honesty from the news media on the actual hospital work loads.

Wrong. Hospital dont care fucking mask until now
My sister work at Kaiser
Two coworker wife . One at seton
My friend’s brother at sf general hospital.

:+1: Unfortunately I belong to the other 20% so my concern is “if infected, what is the fatality rate?”

We refer to who? I thought is a forgone decision? Somehow, the decision is to contain it and not just treat it as endemic. From the little info I get, is because the view is the healthcare infrastructure won’t be able to deal with the peak - true or not is immaterial now - so we need to “flatten the curve” is the message.

If the curve isn’t flattened in 8 weeks then we will all be infected on your suggested exponential growth path.

“Suggested” :face_with_head_bandage: I am labelled as a culprit :scream: Thought is high school maths based on data. It will follow the exponential curve till an intervention.

You clearly can’t read between the lines. Trump and Xi’s back and forth are benefiting their own bases but China is fighting a losing battle as the rest of the world are suffering from a virus that originated from there.

How come your view is always China is losing?
Is there anything that in your view China is winning?
Anyhoo I know for sure whether the elephants are making love or fighting, I suffer.

china wins in burning and shooting infected alive :grinning:

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You have watched “The Flu”? Do you know who is the bad guy in that movie?
Anyhoo they could have and if they did, sometime in the future, we would know.

i got no money to watch, can u burn me a copy?

I am not disagreeing with your math. But once the max number is infected then the economy needs to be opened up. Mass quarantines will have failed and will any more will be pointless. There will be mass immunity. The price will be a horrific death toll but the survivors will need to get back to work immediately. We will know soon enough.

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How come in your view China is always the victim?

Mike Pompeo had a speech yesterday grouping China with Russia and Iran.
Italian officials called China a tumor the other day for spreading disinformation and disease.
More to come.

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“I’m not surprised by a sporadic second-generation case,” said Greg Poland, director of the Mayo Clinic Vaccine Research Group. “But everybody’s holding their breath to see if we’ll have third or fourth generation cases. Did this spouse spread the virus?”

In fact, at a press briefing last week, the CDC’s Dr. Nancy Messonnier warned that “We are likely going to see some cases among close contacts of travelers and human-to-human transmission.”

That’s from 1/30 when the first US person to person case was discovered. So are you saying we should have shutdown the country then?

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Putting word in my mouth.
I always take “considered innocent unless proven guilty”.
You always view China is always guilty.

Because they have already been proven guilty many times. You just refuse to acknowledge it.

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You have NO proof. Only accusation. Today world is evidence-based, not opinion-based. On further thought, I may be wrong. I will have to eat crow.