Literally and Seriously

[quote=“sfdragonboy, post:140, topic:1579”]
…my pretty wife speaks at least FOUR dialects of chinese and well (mandarin, cantonese, chiu chow(?) and fukien(?).
[/quote]Not bad, all four common dialects in SEA. I take it, you only understand Cantonese.

In Singapore, Chiu Chow = Teo Chew. Fukien = Hokkien.

Btw, info for BAGD, there are 56 ethnic groups in China :slight_smile: .

Sadly, I am the “illegal immigrant” - I am toisonese. I speak the village stuff and only partially fluent. My wife does not understand it at all. I have an ear for cantonese though and will understand most things you say to me, especially the bad words…:slight_smile:

Not bad??? Dude, she is a master chef too remember??? If you are on FB, she is usually on there with her many complicated dishes on display. She has many followers… probably just horny men thinking she is available…NOT

Trump used a temporary travel ban to make the leftists excited to exhaustion, then issues other more important orders. When the leftists protest in street, burning Berkeley, another wave of deregulation is just starting.

Leftists are determined to protest since last year, Trump has to give them some excitement from time to time. If there’s nothing to protest, their energy will be aiming crucial issues.

It would be a good idea to issue an attention grabbing order before crucial orders come along. Maybe always mix a social issue with an economic issue? Leftists only care about social issues and they have no interest in economy except redistribution.

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Anyone know where are those 60,000 guys whose visa are revoked stay? Many in Bay Area?

It only affects you if you hold a non-immigrant visa and you are traveling outside of US. If an Iranian student stays in US, a temporarily revoked visa is not a problem. Revoke means suspended in this case. It will be restored without a new application.

I think it has very little real impact, it’s just a political gesture.

Leftists are trying very hard to get people to protest, but people’s reaction is very muted

So you are saying Trump ordered the Muslim ban not to protect Americans but just as a political tool to distract the left? In the meantime 100k people got affected.

Ok.

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100k affected is the exaggeration since very few of these 60k or 100k actually left US. Most of these 60k or 100k people are staying in US and they are not affected much.

Leftists are going to find excuses to protest. It’s better to give them one thing to protest for a long time, instead of protesting over 100 things. It’ll be too time consuming to handle 100 issues instead of 1. This travel ban will consume most of the leftists energy. The leftist politician will feel accomplished by filing lawsuit, protest, talking etc. Media will be saturated with this issue. It’s an inexpensive way for the country to have a deep discussion about immigration. People will be more acceptable to border control.

These 100K people have parents, children, family and relatives outside of US. Some have businesses. Graduating students now cannot apply for work visa. That’s only for the part that’s already inside the country. A great many people cannot come back.

I would not casually say they are not affected much.

Middle East refugees is Europe’s problem primarily, just like Latino illegal immigration is mainly a US problem. I don’t think a large number of Syrian refugees can come to US on their own. Also it’s impossible to have a long term travel ban. It’s devised as a 3 month ban so that Trump can have time to come up with new procedures and also form his cabinet which is delayed by liberals. Democratic congressman can now attacking the travel ban instead of attacking and delaying the confirmations. They can quickly confirm superme court judge and all the secretaries, but using the travel ban as their accomplishment to their voters

Therefore I think that travel ban is not really an important policy, its actual impact on the nation is minimal. It’s a gift for leftist politicians to make great shows on an issue that has no actual impact.

It’s a perfect issue for liberals to show their heart and it carries very little relevance to most people. It does not even affect the 7-country’s people much other than hurting the pride and causing inconvenience to a few hundred people worldwide. The real damage from protesting is more than the damage from the travel ban itself.

It also provides an amusing effect for the US-Iran fight by trading travel bans to each other.

The biggest beneficiary is the media. Even though Trump hates media, but he is the best money maker for media.

Surprisingly this issue is one both liberals and Trump love to use to please their voters.

It benefits the media, liberal politicians and Trump. It gives everyone something to play with minimal damage to the country

Why weren’t all these protestors out helping getting Hillary elected? Lazy, stupid, or both?

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They thought they don’t need to. Media said Hillary is going to win by a landslide. Republican days as a party is numbered.

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Sounds like lazy and stupid, then

Go ahead and reference which actions Obama took.

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Obama is as patriotic as Trump, but he took the position worst period of history. Both are suborn on their firm stand, do not yield to any lobbyists. Today, only very few countries like USA and Germany are in well economically positioned and the Obama has made this happen during his tenure.You do not need references, but it will go into history automatically.

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No, let’s talk data. The US always recovers from a recession. That’s how economic cycles work. Why was Obama’s recovery the slowest since WWII? If he was doing so great out of leading us out of recovery, then why?

We still have more on food stamps. I’ve posted the labor force participation rate.

“The Labor Department has been collecting this since 1968, a time when only 13.5% of US employees were part-timers. That number peaked at 20.1% in January 2010. The latest data point, over five years later, is only modestly lower at 18.0% last month. If the pre-recession percentage is a recovery target, significantly more full-time employment is needed.”

I don’t think they’ve updated this for 2016 yet.

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With this statement, all the 45 presidents have not done anything and any future presidents will not do anything ! Neither Bush break the economy, nor Obama brought the economy from brink, neither Trump will make/break economy…and so on.

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Good question. Because financial crises are different from plain vanilla recessions. A famous paper by Reinhart and Rogoff looked into this particular question:

Recovery from Financial Crises: Evidence from 100 Episodes

Abstract:

Examining the evolution of real per capita GDP around 100 systemic banking crises reveals that a signicant part of the costs of these crises lies in the protracted and halting nature of the recovery. On average it takes about eight years to reach the pre-crisis level of income; the median is about 6.5 years. Five to six years after the onset of the current crisis only Germany and the United States (out of 12 systemic crisis cases) have reached their 2007–2008 peaks in per capita income. In a sample that covers 63 crises in advanced economies and 37 in larger emerging markets, more than 40 percent of the post-crisis episodes experienced double dips. The analysis summarized here adds another dimension to an observation we have been emphasizing on the basis of our earlier work—namely, that the sub-prime crisis is not an anomaly in the context of the pre-WWII era. Postwar business cycles are not the right comparator for the severe crises that have swept advanced economies in recent years.

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What did Obama do to contribute to it?

Don’t know about you. But the fact that we didn’t have Great Depression II is already job well done for me. Not to mention the tripling of S&P.

Obama couldn’t get Congress to pass a bigger fiscal stimulus package. People often accuse Obama of being a Keynesian. But to be a Keynesian you need to push things on the fiscal side, not monetary. Funny that at the time of great distress the R’s refused to spend, but now at close to full employment there is suddenly a lot of enthusiasm for fiscal spending.

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What Trump is enjoying is the fruit that was left by Obama legacy, jobs or economy or what not. At present, Trump is unnecessarily poking into so many places he may not even have time to bring back the jobs.

If he works like this daily, he may not even achieve what he assured to people of the country. Blaming judges or congress will not work, but he has to bring max out 538+100 to his side to run the country. Unfortunately, each one will pull his hair in every direction. If he goes to people again empty handed after 4 years, that is the end. The same people who voted him will not vote again after 4 years.

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