San Francisco Is The Place To Be

What so interesting about the photos? Boring.
You can see similar scenery elsewhere.

I see you made the right choice of moving to Texas.

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You need to leave SF well and travel more.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/sfo-united-electric-flights-18158031.php

Unless you want to say the Moma museum and Yerba Buena Gardens are all that is “downtown”, downtown does not really appear on the top 20 attractions in San Francisco based on data collected from visitors.

And, based on this list, we haven’t even mentioned the various neighborhoods that visitors like to visit, like Chinatown, the Castro, or North Beach and Coit Tower.

Angel Island is underrated. It’s beautiful and also home to a population of Pipevine swallowtails - a large, iridescent and very hard to find butterfly.
I used to love the Academy of Sciences and Steinhardt Aquarium before they spent nearly a half billion dollars lousing them up.
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=pipevine+sallowtail

The original argument was about starting funding and the jobs that go with it. Since you can’t argument against the cell phone activity data, now you’re pivoting. How many locals go to tourist destinations? Most locals avoid them since they are crowded and everything is over priced. I seriously don’t know any locals who go to the Space Needle or Pike’s Place Market unless they have family visiting. Then they groan about the crowds and low quality + over priced food around them.

If you think SF is going to hold long-term when people no longer need to live there for work, then you’re going to end up disappointed. Actually, you already should be. The migration data says people are leaving in material numbers.

2018 was break even and the decline started in 2019 (pre-covid). Covid was just an accelerator. 2021 was so intense it reversed the last 7 years that SF had positive migration in a single year.

Financial Times: Defaults raise alarm over stability of San Francisco’s commercial property

Nah. Complex issues don’t have only one arc. If you insist on this type of linear single track thinking, many things would seem perplexing because the real world doesn’t work like your simplistic mental model.

I was actually the first one to post cell phone data. Yes, I knew about the cell phone data. It’s a proxy for downtown traffic. I am saying there is plenty of life outside of DT, a place locals don’t go if not for work. And SF outside of DT is unlike any city in America with its stunning beauty. Look at the pictures I posted again. The only touristy thing is the cable car, but the background is some random SF neighborhood on a hill. The Golden Gate Bridge is taken from the vantage point of Crissy Field. Not many tourists know about Crissy Field. It’s mostly locals who go there.

We know SF has problems. Can we get pass this already? Nobody disagrees, OK? The point is whether it can and will get better. I am optimistic that it will. Out of town doom and gloomers said no. I have given my reasons. Feel free to come up with reasons why SF will never recover. But citing stats showing how SF is having problems is just describing a problem no one is disputing. Keypoint is why you doom and gloomer think the patient will never get healthy again.

Where is all the VC money going if it’s not going to tech people working at offices in SF?

Orange is still edible since only the core is rotten :face_with_hand_over_mouth: Very fresh looking outside the core :rofl:

Every city has its unique e.g.












Too much old money in the Fab 7x7 for it to die…

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Forget old money. SF is the fountain of new money. It’s where young people come to start their billion dollar companies.

I will keep saying this. Crime and homelessness are not difficult problems. It only looks difficult because we have lunatics in the Board of Supervisors. People like Peskin and Preston. I think the chance of we Asian voters getting some sensible people to replace these lunatics in 2024 is pretty high.

All these doom loops and out of towners dunking on us really helps. It creates a sense of emergency that didn’t exist even 18 months ago.

Well, THE reason why the Fab 7x7 has not plummeted way more deeply IS because of the old money and boomer money base or foundation here. Sure, the hope is that new money will come to revitalize and move the Fab 7x7 into new industries like A.I. but never forget old money. Its force is strong, Luke…

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/pier-39-shooting-san-francisco-18159021.php

more of these will kick old and new money out. gonna be NO MONEY

Yet thousands of people still grudgingly come to “terrible” SF…

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Desperately find evidences of not dying. SMH.

I wish and hope SF gets back to what it was. However, if it doesn’t change it’s ways the market(not just stock market) will show it the consequences.

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Please, the chances of San Francisco “dying” is less than Singapore actually pricing itself out of existence.

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