Very Embarrassing Ladies


And let me throw this out there…for exactly how long will programming pay more? If it’s supply and demand, at what point will programming become a “blue collar” job? In fact, already, my belief that being a software engineer was a good way to work from home is being challenged by people from other countries bidding for work on upwork/freelancer at 20-40% of what you would get paid from Bay Area company. :frowning:


It’ll be interesting. I don’t know anyone that’s done a Udacity program. However, they partner with very successful companies and instructors are from those companies. I saw an interview with their CEO. He was asked how much they pay the instructors. He said they don’t. The companies pay Udacity to let their people teach. That way they know the course is the right content, and they get a leg up on recruiting the best talent. That could be a game changer since it’s 12-18 months to complete one of the programs, and they cost a fraction of traditional universities. It could dramatically increase the CS talent pool over the next 5-10 years.


I think there are organizations that was trying to help eash that transitions like this. Our COO is involved with this: and we are going to have a Software Engineer joining through this program on Monday. I agree that especially tech industry moved very quickly that it is definitely a burden for people looking to raise family.

My wife and I had similar conversations about her experience here in the bay area when she took some time off after we had our girls.


I have done some courses on Udacity. Their quality is top notch. They recently launched a program on self driving cars. Interesting to see how that goes.

I think more job training is key to help people left behind by globalization. It’s counter productive to put up tariffs to protect the sunset industries. But programs like Udacity are geared towards college grads. We need something more blue collar.


I don’t think slapping jingoistic labels like socialism advances the discussion much. If you look at the economies ranked the most free by the Heritage Foundation:

The top 5: Hong Kong, Singapore, New Zealand, Switzerland and Australia all have some form of healthcare subsidized by government.

Government is just one tool in the toolbox. It’s not inherently evil or good. Depends on the job. Despite what combination of tools we choose, the goal should always be: to provide quality healthcare to all citizens.


Sorry to make this forum so political the last few days. I have strong emotions invested in this one and bit by bit I am getting better. :slight_smile: Discussions on this forum have been very good throughout. In fact I think ours is the best I have seen around the net. People are open, frank, polite and real. No name calling. No primal screams. Sure, we have differences. But that’s exactly why it’s so good to talk with you guys. No stinky echo chamber for me.


Interesting read. I really appreciate her perspective and her courage to stand up especially since she risks not only the wrath of Hillary supporters, but that of radical Islam as well:


I attended her conference (organized by school district, many BA schools adapted her concept) in person and it was very valuable experience for me.
Most of questions were about how parents/teachers could encourage kids to have growth mindset when they seemed to have fixed mindset already. (We all know that kids have their own temperament and some are more sensitive to end results than what they enjoy and learn through process.) She said that’s why she also developed very detailed steps to teach kids how to develop growth mindset. I have been trying to follow her instructions since then. However, I saw the biggest change in my daughter when she read the book (at 6th grade) herself.

I know my kids will face many many failures in their lives and one thing I really want to teach them is “how to get their strength back from such failures (even big ones) and learn failure is as valuable as success”.

I found that the biggest obstacle in my life was nothing but my own despair.
I hope my kids to learn how to overcome such despair and find hope in any circumstances.


In Singapore, government operates many polyclinics which charge very cheaply, see . However it is very crowded so many richer Singaporeans prefer to pay 10 times more in private operated clinics… doctors are not better, just better service and attitudes… actually government polyclinics and hospitals have far better qualified doctors and equipments. So all complicated and difficult are referred back to government hospitals :slight_smile:


I hear ya. Big time. :frowning:


Thank you @Jane for sharing your experience. In general I think middle or high school students are better served by some “meta courses” like how to learn, how to overcome failure, how to take care of personal finances etc. Instead of facts like which country grow what crops.

There was a Coursera course “Learning how to learn” that’s pretty good. It applies modern day brain science to design better ways to absorb new information. But sadly very few colleges will offer that kind of courses.


That’s exactly the same way in Hong Kong. The service are all free, if you are willing to wait. So you have a basic safety net. No one will go bankrupt because of a surgery. But if you have money you can always find a private doctor, which charges like 1/10 of what the US doctors charge. And Hong Kong has a similar per capita GDP as US, i.e. it’s first world, not 3rd world.

Hong Kong and Singapore are about the most capitalistic places in the world. So I find all this talk about Obamacare being “socialist” really weird. HK and SG also have a lot of public housing too. Their governments are just pragmatic, using whatever tools possible to solve problems. Sometimes the solution is all market driven, sometimes all public, often times a mix.



I find American two-party system is difficult to get things done. Always talking, little action. Now that Republicans control White House, Senate, Congress and soon Supreme courts, hopefully more bitter medicine can be taken. Hence, I’m optimistic that many things would improve and economy would boom… contrary to what Democrats leaning media say.


The media has hated every Republican leader after Eisenhower. …they have cried wolf one too many times…Trump called their bluff. .now they have no credibility for one half of the country. …


Megan Kelly’s face was priceless when she had to announce The Donald was probably going to win…oh boo hoo Megan (nice hair cut though)


I think the Trumpster has the hots for her…


Not sure if joking, but yes this exactly. I’m generally in favor of fiscal conservationism on a local level and fiscal liberalism on a national level. California can absolutely get in too much debt and go bankrupt. The US government can print as many dollars as it needs. Sure, you have to avoid hyperinflation, but a steadily increasing national debt is potentially sustainable indefinitely.


Yes, interesting but ultimately fruitless. Sure, not everyone who voted for trump is a racist misogynistic homophobe. But if you support a candidate who caters to that demographic, out of spite for the fact that Obama didn’t help you financially, you still deserve to be ridiculed. And not liking Clinton isn’t an excuse either – I don’t like Clinton or Trump, and voted for neither. I feel confident in the purity of my choice.


First, it is clearly disproven that Trump voters were racist–many of the people who voted for Trump voted for Barack to be the first black president both years.

Second, no people don’t deserve to be ridiculed. Ridicule is what creates anger and division. You can vehemently disagree with someone, but how you do it makes all the difference. It’s pretty clear that civil dialogue died a long time ago in this nation, but unfortunately when dialogue breaks down, people get angry and frustrated and violence results.


Until your sugar daddy, err China, pulls the plug.