Review not reform. Reform implied must make some changes. Review means to revisit the rationale for a fixed quota per country instead of just one overall number or compute the country quota based per country plus population size (something like Congress and Senate). Remember, using population size solely to determine per country quota is discriminative too. I suspect there is some political reasons for choosing a fixed quota per country. Do these political reasons still valid?
In that case I would levae the house. If I donāt, it means I am happy with the treatment. One correction hereā¦ you were not invited. you chose to go to their home.
If you are stuck between a rock and and a hard place does not mean you are happy with the situation.
It doesnāt justify the injustice to a section of the legal population.
Thereās discrimination on how the immigration department works and assigns the quotas. It due to population size. If Indians/Chinese want to get a shorter period of time in line waiting for any immigration benefit, I donāt know, pardon my stupidity, but maybe if they kill each other to the point only 100 million of them stay alive. That will certainly shorten the amount of time for adjudication of their visas. I donāt see any other solution.
I already explained that immigration reform is needed. It is not only about H1B visas. This is about having a bunch of āknow it allā on immigration issues sitting down and discussing all the problems that exist in this outdated immigration system. By the way, the H1B visa holders got a good hand when the DHS authorized their spouses to have a work permit to work in this country.
On the visas issue, once you change the number of visas assigned for any determined country, other countries will suffer. You give to some but take them from some, that's the way they work at the DHS since visas are not just a number they pull out of their sleeves. By law the number of visas are generated every year. Once they are gone, next year, if your number is lucky.I agree that it is a bit of relief. The waste of human capital by not allowing the H1B spouses, who are mostly engineers, mba, phd, etc and highly employable, to work is pathetic. Also remember that this rule was more for corporates to meet the skilled labor demand due to the 65,000 yearly limit to the H1Bs numbers. If it was for humane reasons, this rule would have come a decade ago.
By the way, not all spouses of H1B are eligible to work. Only spouses of H1Bs who have their immigration petition (i140) approved or they have exhausted 6 years of H1B and extending it based on a pending PERM application. This is the kind of misinformation that public has, i donāt blame the public, the fine print information regarding this is not readily available.
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manch, manch, manch
I could kiss you for this. It seems that EVERYONE in the U.S. lives with three fallacies related to economics:
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That our āeconomyā is a fixed pie; that the only way one gets wealthy is to āstealā that wealth from others and,
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āEqualityā is equal outcome not equal opportunity and,
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That governmental policies and decrees can overcome market forces and nullify both #1 and #2 with no impact on anything else. i.e. there are no costs.
I deal with ignorant policy makers and those who carry them out on a daily basis. They are clueless while remaining secure in their government provided cocoons. Some animals are more equal than other animals.
And your analogy to the dichotomous proletariat view on pro sports - only the best, the cream rises to the top, they deserve everything they get - is fantastic.
Youāre going to end up voting libertarian yet! 
There is a choice outside of the Demigods and Repungents.
I am a reformed libertarian. Used to like that ideology. But since reformed. 
I donāt think the visaās are the big issue. The big issue is how the workers can be treated since without the job they mwere st leave the country. It often creates the situation where visa holders donāt speak up because the consequences are too high. Modern sweat shops.
Americans talk about competition being good for the economy and growth yet there is a fear of that same competition in regards to who gets a job.
I worked out of the country on a work visa. When the time to renew came up the company advertised for my job using my resume as the requirements. Cleverly written so that no one who applied was qualified. Like most things itās a game that can be played well or not.
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@nanomug: Now you know what I am talking about. They advertise the position, nobody can qualify because of this or because of that. Nobody shows up or calls, you know what I mean? 
Exactly @buying.
Many companies based in other countries rotate senior staff through international offices for 1-3 years. That makes sense for visaās. Otherwise Iām mostly in favor of you want to work here then start the process of becoming an American and become one via green card.
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Some possible developments on our āfavā topicā¦
Sure it causes brain drain ā of other countries into the US. We have too many natives studying art history to support our industry.
Iām for unlimited H-1B visas, but not infinite visas. Each visa should still meet the nominal criteria that a local worker could not be found. I also like the idea of minimum wage got H-1B ā make it something like median household income for the metro area or 100k or whatever. Point being if a local company truly canāt find skilled people in the US, itās going to be a high paying job. If they are paying an H-1B only $40k then likelihood is that they are just skirting the hiring rules to save a buck and could fill the job locally if they simply offered market rate.
We also have special visas for farm labor. Now thatās purely exploitation and I am surprised nobody says anything about it. There is no skill in picking strawberry. The only āskillā these foreign labor has the ability to live with far below minimum wage.
I am sick and tired of the subsidy and special treatment for the farmers. Itās time our country moves on.
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We throw out 40-50% of food grown. We literally pay farmers to grow food that gets thrown out. Food waste releases a lot of methane which is far more harmful than CO2. Yet all the environmentalists want to do is talk about cars being evil sources of pollution.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-h-1b_us_5890d86ce4b0522c7d3d84af?m=false
For the guys who went on and on this thread about h1b.
To see how this works, note that most Silicon Valley firms sponsor their H-1B workers, who hold a temporary visa, for U.S. permanent residency (green card) under the employment-based program in immigration law. EB sponsorship renders the workers de facto indentured servants; though they have the right to move to another employer, they do not dare do so, as it would mean starting the lengthy green card process all over again.
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Exactly
Not only that, We californians eat mexico produce while our top fruits went to asia. Hong Kong has better california grown fruits and sell a lot cheaper than here. My wife still donāt get it , she was expecting a lot of cheap great california grown fruits she used to eat in hk before she immigrate here. Where is the BIG XSS Strawberries???
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Fruits in HK are freaking expensive. I doubt HK has cheaper fruits than here.
dude, i go back twice a year, trust me, lot cheaper than here.