How Trump has handled the pandemic

https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lanres/PIIS2213-2600(20)30116-8.pdf

Diabetes and certain drugs treating hypertension may make patients more susceptible to corona.

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We therefore hypothesise that diabetes and hypertension treatment with ACE2-stimulating drugs increases the risk of developing severe and fatal COVID-19.

If this hypothesis were to be confirmed, it could lead to a conflict regarding treatment because ACE2 reduces inflammation and has been suggested as a potential new therapy for inflammatory lung diseases, cancer, diabetes, and hypertension.

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Ok. I was wondering about that–disease or drug…

ACE2 can also be increased by thiazolidinediones and ibuprofen.

Looks like aspirin is not an ACE inhibitor. That’s good news since so many people are on it…

List of ACE inhibitors:

Sometimes what is right or wrong depends upon the context and the time. Reading some comments on this thread it would appear the topmost issue facing the USA is getting Trump (or the west) to say he is at fault for coronavirus epidemic. Maybe he is or he is not. I do not have enough information to arrive at that judgment. The priority, in my opinion, is to get over this crisis and get the economy back to track. It is hurting lot of people already, and it will eventually hurt everyone if it is not contained. Let the voters, historians, and experts come to the conclusion what mistakes were made and who was at fault. Voters will have their opportunity in another 8 months to have their say.

I am not saying identifying the mistakes if any, in the handling of this crisis, and the person at fault is not an important issue. It is a very important issue. It is important so that in the future, no one makes the same mistake.

I have an Facebook friend who got infected. Caught the virus 3/5 at a SF party with 50 guests. Didn’t show symptoms till 3/10. Mild flu like symptoms for five days. Used Advil and cough medicine. Ten people got sick, one still is. She is 66 and in good health.

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@pandeyathotmail Paraphrasing me? You might want to email Trump about your view.

You miss @manch post. The death rate in Wuhan is about 5000 per million people :face_with_head_bandage:

If Trump can save the day he is a hero. If not a zero. 100k cases and 3000 deaths he gets re elected. 1 million cases and more than 30k deaths plus a recession and he goes down as the worst president in history

Think you are on a Titanic that is hit by an iceberg. The ship can sink in next two hours.
Do the best that is possible given the situation.
And resolve all the disputes after arriving at the shore.

Exactly but is not what Trump is doing. He stirs racism and insinuate. You still didn’t get it?
See below comment. This is what Trump did, stir up emotion,…

@pandeyathotmail Can you see it now? I didn’t mean that, and he got emotional about it.

@Roy321 Thousand apologies. I don’t mean what you think I say. What I mean is he should just drive hard at dealing with the crisis only. Both medical and psychological.

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He stirs racism and insults. I agree. But he can be stopped going into that area. It takes two to tango. I wish the reporters stopped trolling him into that area during the press conference and in their reporting outside the conference room. They should focus on what he is doing to get the country back on track. He is a politician and he has to defend his position. He was not elected to be a saint but to fight. I guess that is what many voters like about him and he throws red meat to his base. He enjoys being a victim and the opportunity to fight back.

Trump is and has always been a problem. He talks weird and funny all the time. But blame lies everywhere including the Chinese govt which gave wrong info to WHO.

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Here’s one example where Fauci is laughing at Trump while hiding his face behind his hands.

https://twitter.com/KellyO/status/1241044418594996225

VP Pence is super cool, so emotionless. I beginning to like him.

Here is post from another friend that may have covid19. She is healthy and about 60.
Lives in San Rafael

I thought I did everything I was supposed to. To my knowledge I wasn’t around anyone that contracted Covid19, but here I am with the symptoms.
It started Wed night with tightness in the chest. Thursday I felt a little lethargic, my chest had more pressure along with a periodic cough. That morning I had Kirk self quarantine on the other side of the house so we don’t breath the same air.

:crossed_fingers: and Prayers he doesn’t get what I have.

Friday morning a fever is added to my symptoms so I figure it’s time to make that call. Fever, tightness in the chest, dry cough, chills and just feel icky.

News Alert: When you call your Doctor’s office you get connected to a call center. They ask you some questions then put you on hold and you wait for the Nurse to come on. I was on hold for an hour, then they gave me the option to have them call me. Well I needed to trust the system and hope I’d get my call. I did, three hours later. They said they’re so busy fielding calls and advising patients it’s been taking hours to return a call. (Bless them for everything they do)The nurse interviewed me and asked about my symptoms. I went over all my details, but because I didn’t travel internationally I was denied a test and was told the doctors were too busy with more critical patients. Well I pushed back and said I wanted to talk with my Doctor about it. She said she would send them a message. Fifteen minutes pass and I get a call from a triage Nurse that reviewed my notes. We talk about my symptoms and she was very sympathetic about everything going on and my concerns about getting worse. Her recommendation was to make an appt at urgent care. She said stay away from the hospitals unless your condition is life threatening. They are overcrowded with really sick people and some insurances don’t cover urgent care so more people are going to the ER! And I would be seen sooner at a Clinic. I went and met with the Doctor at urgent care. He checked my vitals, took a chest X-ray, tested me for the flu, strep, both negative. Prognosis: He tells me I might have it, but you need to be tested. (We all know how hard that’s gong to be)

I leave with a prescription of Tamiflu (for the flu that I don’t have) to help with my symptoms and buy me some time. He said due to the influx of people coming down with these symptoms it’s been hard for them to filter through all the calls. Seeing him brought me a notch up as I needed to check off the box in order to get a phone screening from the Health Dep’t to potentially get tested. So the box is checked. :white_check_mark:

Hopefully this weekend will be non eventful for me and I’ll get my call from them on Monday and tell them I don’t need the damn test and I’ll recover at home.

Please send good vibes and energy my way. :pray:

Everyone shelter in place to protect yourself and your loved ones.

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I want to know what “deep state” he is in. I have no clue what he is thinking ever. As long he can’t piss off his boss Mr.Trump he feels good. So, he adopts this expressionless/clueless face.

I think it’s going to be a lot more than 100k cases.

Here are the cases for the US:
Thursday: 9500
Friday: 14500
Saturday: 22700

50% a day right now. I heard the curve will change its slope 15 to 20 days after the shelter-in-place order. So, there could be 35k on Sunday and 50k on Monday.

And I hear South Bay is going to massively ramp up testing next week?

Edit: I think he will get re-elected, even if there are 1 million cases. I think he did actually well after a poor start, like blocking incoming flights from Europe. An unpopular decision on that day, but he did right.

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Growth rate = 1.546

Pass 100,000 cases on Wed 130k.

If no change in rate,

At 15th day from 9500 cases, 6.5 million cases
At 20th day from 9500 cases, 56.6 million cases
At 24th day from 9500 cases, 330 million cases

Are these facts as well? Do we now rely solely on WHO for US public health policy?

Top health officials first learned of the virus’s spread in China on January 3, US Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar said Friday. Throughout January and February, intelligence officials’ warnings became more and more urgent, according to the Post — and by early February, much of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the CIA’s intelligence reports were dedicated to warnings about Covid-19.

Trump should have paid me for intelligence instead. Everybody in East Asia knew we have a pandemic in our hands in early January. Didn’t know we have outsourced our public health decision making to WHO. Time to disband CDC?

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vox is completely BS as FXXK. i wouldn’t trust that

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